Glad I am really old. Have zero desire to use tiktok.
Actually age has little to do with this. If you join Tiktok you will see creators of all ages. Your zero desire is more of your personal taste, based on your individuality rather than your age.
TikTok is scary good. It's digital crack
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#392Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can relate, but depending on your perspective, maybe even worse because I find the recommendations off-putting. I don't understand what's happening that people like. I can't think of another word: It's just off-putting. Discordant. Dissonant. It's like being a atheist, raised in an atheist house, in a country full of atheists and then going to church for the first time.
I think it is like licorice, some say they love it but I can't imagine why anyone would want to eat it as the taste is so overwhelming and horrible.
Yeah, some people are monsters. Like those that include black licorice in bags of jelly beans or jubejubes.
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#393Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> TikTok on the other hand doesn’t care what other people like Yes, it absolutely does. Nonviolent social activism, LGBTQ content, and anything judged to be "subversive" is downranked/shadowbanned.
They stopped doing this in 2020. Now you can easily find very popular subversive content
Yeah? Can you post about Tienamman Square?
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#394Earlier quoted context omitted.
Both things use chemical reactions in the brain to create an addiction. The only difference is that smoking is regulated.
I do not think they are the same. People addicted to social media can be locked in a room for a week, without social media, and show no adverse withdrawal symptoms. If you try the same to people addicted to drugs, they might die.
They’re also not the same thing because one is named “drugs” and the other is named “TikTok”
But putting pointless distinctions aside, an addiction is an addiction. Gambling addicts won’t die if you lock them in a room for a week (with food and water…), but they’ll go back gambling once you let them out.
Same with TikTok and other social media. They’re creating real addictions in people with real consequences. I’m not an expert scientist doctor man, but afaik addictions are bad.
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That’s a strange experience, I think you need to deliberately follow a few people and interact with a few things And then it will attempt to hook you more
like for example, after writing this comment I just tried creating a new account again (using my facebook to login). Half the videos are in dutch for some reason (I'm from Denmark, I don't speak dutch nor have I ever lived there). I tried searching on some topics that interested me, and found some of them pretty compelling. Then I went back to the feed, and it just kept showing more dutch content. Every time I've tri…
If you long press then press "not interested" on all the Dutch videos I think it would stop showing them.
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#396Earlier quoted context omitted.
>I subscribe to a bunch of email newsletters and RSS feeds, check Reddit and Twitter daily, and check HackerNews morning and night, and I have no problem finding interesting content every time I open these things (Twitter being least interesting to me out of this list). I think we have the same "problem": "content" doesn't engage us, "discussion" does. It's not so much about the exact topic as much as the ability to…
Wait. Isn’t “discussion” just another form of “content”? How is it really different? I thought you might be referring to “other people thoughts” outside your bubble? Which could hint to why you don’t like Instagram (they try to keep you in one thought bubble) compared to HN/Reddit. PS: I’m actually interested in both, content and discussion. Which is bad because you get addicted to all kind of platforms!
>Wait. Isn’t “discussion” just another form of “content”? How is it really different?
yes, which is partially why I used quotes. I don't know a precise term for what I'm describing. "content" in this context tends to focus more on the creator while "discussion" tends to focus more on the topic. They certainly aren't mutually exclusive. I feel an example of the difference is two scenario with a youtube video.
- someone with many subscribers publishing a youtube video on their channel and the resulting comments (people who likely have some personal investment in the creator) skewing towards discussion of the creator's thoughts and ability
- that same video being posted on reddit, with a degree of separation meaning that the discussion usually skews towards the topic, with little mention of the creator specifically.
The both have some mixing of discussion and content, but they have a different flavor to them. modern social media skews even further towards focusing on the creator, even in resulting discussion. Which is fine but perhaps not satifying to a "discussion focused" user who simply wants to figure out the recipe required or the work needed to perform a feat and hoping to hear multiple other voices of people who have tried/made similar things.
>I thought you might be referring to “other people thoughts” outside your bubble? Which could hint to why you don’t like Instagram
well that part varies immensely. Some people do want to try and consider multiple viewpoints, some merely want the "truth" and will inevitably muck through a lot of noise to try and find that. And others still do just want to hear their own viewpoints echoed.
It's a spectrum and I can't pretend that I fit neatly into any of the kinds of categories above. Depends on my mood and the topic. Some topics I have no stakes nor thoughts in and I just wanna see what the conversation is, while others I am pretty set in and I do just inevitably think to myself "does anyone actually know what they are talking about?"
But I think that's on a separate axis on the reason other social media don't engage me. It's not like I want a bunch of people downplaying or contradicting the creator to create "discussion". That's a lose-lose for everyone. But the nature of Instagram means it won't be easy to say, look at a cosplaying longboarder and
- see if other people also cosplay longboard
- read other people's experiences on their own attempts at cosplay longboarding
- get more context on if cosplaying longboarding is some rising trend sweeping a nation
That sorts of info is what personally sends me down the rabbit hole that somehow ends with me knowing way too much trivia on a topic I never even thought of hours later. Otherwise, it's more of a matter of "neat, that's really creative and I never woulda thought of that" and then move on with my day.
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#397TikTok is the first piece of tech that makes me know I'm old, I can't imagine choosing to view any of this garbage at all. The format of short videos itself is so very cringe.
There’s nothing inherently wrong about short videos. Content isn’t inherently good because it’s longer or on a specific medium. Nobody is saying that only one type should exist. Everything has its place.
> There’s nothing inherently wrong about short videos.
sure, but there seems to be something inherently wrong with people filming them ...
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#398Earlier quoted context omitted.
Both things use chemical reactions in the brain to create an addiction. The only difference is that smoking is regulated.
I do not think they are the same. People addicted to social media can be locked in a room for a week, without social media, and show no adverse withdrawal symptoms. If you try the same to people addicted to drugs, they might die.
Huh? I do believe they'd act the same as nicotine addicts; that is, irritable, bored, unfocused, antsy
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How and what is LessWrong doing? I haven't heard much about it in years. In a way, it's not a good fit in the 'post-truth' era.
From themselves, via about and a link there "A Brief History of LessWrong" https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/S69ogAGXcc9EQjpcZ/a-brief-hi... > In 2015-2016 the site underwent a steady decline of activity leading some to declare the site dead. In 2017, a team led by Oliver Habryka took over the administration and development of the site, relaunching it on an entirely new codebase later that year. > The new project, dubb…
Thank you! That page addresses the question only in the one quoted sentence, "In 2015-2016 the site underwent a steady decline of activity leading some to declare the site dead.". This page, which I found via the link in the parent, says much more:
https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/MKrrnrCDv6zm4SL9a/why-hasn-t...
I suspect it's connected to the political rejection of post-modernism (in its actual meaning, not the politically loaded meaning) and with it the Enlightement ideas of reason/rationality (replaced by 'winners' - brazenness and aggression), fact (replaced by 'post-truth'), intellect, universal rights and humanitarianism (replaced by nationalism and reactionaryism), and through those things the power and obligation of humans to better their world and themselves. That rejection was widely normalized, I suspect, in the election of 2016, IME. A problem with talking about these things is a factual basis.
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#400Earlier quoted context omitted.
> 90% was girls trying to be cute And 90% of those girls have an OnlyFans account. For an app that was first / still is targeted towards children and teenagers I find that extremely predatory and dangerous.
Is it really that big of a deal if a teen sees boobies? And parents need to be the ones deciding if their kid gets to use an app or not by vetting it themselves. Parental controls are an assistive device, not a panacea. Calling self-employed sex workers "predatory and dangerous" isn't right, though.
Tricking horny teenagers into using their mommy's credit card is not predatory?
Also I am sure I don't need to tell how porn sets a whole set of unrealistic expectations about sex and intimacy, especially since a young age.