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Getting my personal data from Amazon was weeks of confusion and tedium

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Re: Getting my personal data from Amazon was weeks of confusion and tedium

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I'm personally using https://github.com/dogsheep/hacker-news-to-sqlite#usage , it's great. You basically just need your username and that's it

Ooh nice thanks for the tip!! I'm making a "life log" system that stores stuff I do online automatically. This will come in very handy.

Oooh, I'm a big fun of lifelogging! You might want to check out some of my projects like https://github.com/karlicoss/HPI#readme :)

Re: Getting my personal data from Amazon was weeks of confusion and tedium

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I'm one of the creators of YourDigitalRights.org, a service which automates the process of sending data requests (it's free, open source and were a registered charity). What is described in this article is, unfortunately, a common case with some big tech companies. I've recently started an experiment to send data deletion requests to 600 data brokers and document what happens. It's dark patterns all the way down. The…

That's so great. I wish there was something like this for Germany.

We support the GDPR, so it will work in Germany.

Re: Getting my personal data from Amazon was weeks of confusion and tedium

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You can do it if you know how to use an API. See the 'API' link at the bottom of the page.

Will this include all logs & data that aren't publicly visible? The HN software employs various dark patterns such as shadowbanning & rate limiting accounts, all this info would have to be disclosed to, in addition to any internal communication about your account.

Really? I would have expected a bigger outcry if GDPR et al. required disclosure of shadowbanning & rate limits; could you possibly direct me to where I can find the exact requirements? Because that sounds like great fun to go exercise.

Re: Getting my personal data from Amazon was weeks of confusion and tedium

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Yes, they have multiple download buttons and it takes a bit, but I got the same with Google; it only took a few minutes to download the data once made available.

I was most surprised by the sheer amount of audio data kept: in my case, more than 5Gb of wave files dating back to when I set up my first Alexa 6 years ago. I believe at least 50% of everything Alexa heard in my house is recorded there. That's when I started looking for an offline alternative, since -after the initial novelty wore off- we're only using it to listen to music, turn on/off smart home lights and ask the occasional random question (convert C to F, etc.).

Re: Getting my personal data from Amazon was weeks of confusion and tedium

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I'm one of the creators of YourDigitalRights.org, a service which automates the process of sending data requests (it's free, open source and were a registered charity). What is described in this article is, unfortunately, a common case with some big tech companies. I've recently started an experiment to send data deletion requests to 600 data brokers and document what happens. It's dark patterns all the way down. The…

I have been asking a broker to remove my data for weeks and they are giving me the runaround. However, I’m not in CA (another US state). Anything I can do?

Please send me an email with the details (it's on the website).

Re: Getting my personal data from Amazon was weeks of confusion and tedium

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That's so great. I wish there was something like this for Germany.

We support the GDPR, so it will work in Germany.

When I went to the German site and tried to generate a data request, the generated email was in English. Is that intended? I think I'm Germany you're much more likely to get a response if you write in German.

Re: Getting my personal data from Amazon was weeks of confusion and tedium

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I am getting quite tired of the "small businesses" argument about the GDPR. It's starting to become the "think of the children" equivalent but for data protection. Would you also be against food safety or physical product regulations (ban of leaded solder or other toxic chemicals)? After all, those can and do affect small restaurants and other businesses as well.

I don't think comparing food safetey or toxic chemicals that hurt your health to the design, usability and accessibility of a data export is very valid. The parent argument was not about not having to export data at all. It was about how well designed it was.

The "small businesses" argument is brought up in every discussion of the GDPR including much worse transgressions than merely bad UX in the data export process. I was not exclusively referring to this particular instance.

Re: Getting my personal data from Amazon was weeks of confusion and tedium

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That is something that I like about Google. It only takes a minute to get to what they admit to data they have collected. Also easy to dump all data and then download it a few hours later. I mostly just use paid for services (GCP, Play books and movies, sometimes Colab Pro), but Gmail is my backup email and I like to download that occasionally.

re: Amazon: I like to refresh my VPN IP address, and go to Amazon in a private browser tab to avoid being "gamed" on item pricing. I login once I have the price set.

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