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TikTok is scary good. It's digital crack

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Re: TikTok is scary good. It's digital crack

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Post by jancsika »

karpathy wrote: post #10
kpennell wrote: post #4

I'm not sure how I got sucked into Tiktok but I was quickly hooked. There's something so refreshingly playful, authentic, and raw about so much Tiktok content compared to Instagram. Instagram (explore/discovery) is generally pretty people with pretty things in pretty places. That was fun for a while but it's just not that interesting after a while. I don't need to see more pretty pictures of women doing yoga. I don't…

I agree with this. Their ranker is really good and has improved dramatically the more I watch and like. And it's not even fully garbage content, a good amount of it is interesting, useful, inspirational and educational. A rabbit hole of really excellent videos from a professional dog trainer caused me a detour of 20 minutes and pushed me over the edge to create the original tweet. So one side of me is not even mad, b…

Somewhere in the 80s some concerned parents in Jordache jeans just got kicked out of their mall's little town square facade where they were trying to hand out political pamphlets. And they went, "Oh, so that is the thing."

So... what's the thing here with TikTok? I mean it cannot just be that it's a personally-tailored time suck. What's missing? Is it pro-unionization rabbit holes?

I'm going to go ahead and guess "pro-unionization rabbit holes." If I'm wrong then the evidence will be me following the link someone gives me of a 2-hour TikTok unionization rabbit hole. I can't lose, internet!

edit: clarification

Re: TikTok is scary good. It's digital crack

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Post by adfgadfgaery »

WheelsAtLarge wrote: post #6

Wow, this is saying something since it's coming from(the),"Director of AI at Tesla, leading the Autopilot Vision team. Previously OpenAI, CS231n, PhD @ Stanford. I like to train large deep neural nets " (his Twitter description)

AI at Tesla is a scam, so it probably doesn't say what you think it says.

It's a shame that Karpathy actually seems to know what he's talking about. Maybe he originally bought in to the Tesla vision and doesn't have the integrity to admit it's failed. Maybe he's like von Braun, doing great evil because he wants funding. Either way we lost a seemingly talented researcher.

Re: TikTok is scary good. It's digital crack

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Post by jamesy0ung »

merek wrote: post #22
johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #11

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> propaganda that COVID came from China Where do you think COVID came from? Can you provide independent sources to support your claim?

> Where do you think COVID came from? Can you provide independent sources to support your claim?

Duh, it was invented in a U.S. Army lab /s

Re: TikTok is scary good. It's digital crack

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Post by johndfsgdgdfg »

merek wrote: post #22
johndfsgdgdfg wrote: post #11

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> propaganda that COVID came from China Where do you think COVID came from? Can you provide independent sources to support your claim?

WHO investigation is an independenct source. Many scientists have condemn racism against Asian Americans and racist right wing propagnada against China [1].

[1] https://www.science.org/content/article/scientists-strongly-...

Re: TikTok is scary good. It's digital crack

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Post by imranq »

TikTok was nice, but quickly became boring and irrelevant for me. My friend likens it to salt water: it seems to quench your thirst in the moment, but you get thirstier and thirstier as you drink it, eventually dying of dehydration.

Re: TikTok is scary good. It's digital crack

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Post by querulous »

ryanSrich wrote: post #7
woodruffw wrote: post #3

Maybe it's because I haven't used it, but a lot of the language around TikTok feels exceptional in ways that aren't justified: Twitter has (tens of?) millions of "terminally online" users, but we don't compare it to "digital crack." This isn't to say that TikTok isn't addictive; it clearly is. But I think there are strong recency (it's the New Thing) and exoticism (it's a weird Chinese app) biases in how we talk abou…

Maybe, but TikTok is an order of magnitude above other social media apps when it comes to learning what you like. It’s both scary and extremely impressive. Twitter on the other hand seems to promote monoculture, and tends to push you towards what everyone else likes. It essentially pushes whatever is popular. Some of the most interesting content and users on Twitter are shadow banned, either intentionally or through…

tik tok is free of a lot of the expectations that twitter and facebook and instagram have to contend with. no one really gets upset if they think tik tok has it's fingers on the scale with regards to what you get to see. people using twitter, facebook and insta get EXTREMELY upset if they even suspect they are missing out on content or getting content "put in their face". look how much outrage erupts every time twitter defaults everyone to the algorithmic timeline

Re: TikTok is scary good. It's digital crack

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Post by discordance »

adfgadfgaery wrote: post #32
WheelsAtLarge wrote: post #6

Wow, this is saying something since it's coming from(the),"Director of AI at Tesla, leading the Autopilot Vision team. Previously OpenAI, CS231n, PhD @ Stanford. I like to train large deep neural nets " (his Twitter description)

AI at Tesla is a scam, so it probably doesn't say what you think it says. It's a shame that Karpathy actually seems to know what he's talking about. Maybe he originally bought in to the Tesla vision and doesn't have the integrity to admit it's failed. Maybe he's like von Braun, doing great evil because he wants funding. Either way we lost a seemingly talented researcher.

Do you want to back that up?

Although FSD is still between Level 2-3, the ML system and work that has gotten it this far is pretty stellar.

Re: TikTok is scary good. It's digital crack

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Post by bayareabadboy »

yalogin wrote: post #18

No wonder Facebook is spooked. They tried to get it banned in the US so as to buy some time, but it didn't work. I actually think Facebook would have banned the previous guy earlier but Peter Theil probably promised he could get TikTok banned in the US. When they couldn't deliver the TikTok ban, facebook didn't need him anymore.

Reality should determine your politics, not the other way around.
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