Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?
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Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?
#332I became a teacher. More generally, having a job that interfaces you with people will help.
Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?
#333Throwing myself out there, getting rejected and snubbed otherwise slapped around a lot .. until I slowly started to figure out how to observe "normal, healthy" people and learn from them. Among the things we learn is -- that we are much more "plastic" (and able to change by sheer force of will) than we initially thought. Things like hygiene, posture, clarity of speech (such that people can at least understand us) and…
Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?
#334Social dancing. Argentinian tango, to be specific. There are two factors to make shy people more comfortable. First: "everybody in the room are doing it" - being that a class, practice or milonga. Second: codigos , a game-like ritual of asking girl to dance with a stare. If you are rejected - only her knows it.
- Saying "yes" to a dance with someone is a very bounded commitment: it's 3-4 minutes of their time, and consent to physical contact with the shoulder blade and hands/arms (more for embrace dances like Balboa, but still everyone comes in knowing exactly what to expect).
- The basic moves/steps are all well understood; it's pretty easy to assess the skill level of a new partner within the first ~20 seconds and find common ground in terms of what will work to do together, how much you need to stick to the script vs being novel and playful, etc.
- There isn't much unwritten etiquette, and what little there is usually communicated clearly in beginner classes or non-judgmentally at the dances themselves. As one example: don't try to "teach" on the floor; it's okay to ask for tips or feedback if you want to, but no one wants to receive unsolicited corrections.
- In most well-run scenes no one is there to hook up and any attempt to do so would be regarded as creepy and result in the person being asked to leave. But you definitely can make same- and opposite-gender friends, and often there are opportunities to meet up beforehand or afterward, or to share travel/accommodations when going to larger events.
So yeah, my experience as an awkward engineering student in a mostly-male environment at school was that dance communities (I was connected to several of them due to traveling for internships) were very much a safe space in which to acclimatize to being around—and in limited physical contact with—women, and practice the meat of socializing in terms of how to carry a conversation, tell stories in a group, listen actively, etc, without the weird pressure of everyone suspecting everyone else's motives or like, wondering if they have some kind of agenda as far as trying to "close" or if they're going to get the wrong idea, etc. This really frees people up to be extremely friendly and have fun, and when in doubt, you're literally just there to dance and enjoy the music. :)
Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?
#335I too used to be awkward, anxious, and not finding within me the possibility to show my true self in new social contexts. A few things that made a difference: 1. Moving. I moved many times in my twenties and each time I had new neighbors and coworkers was slightly easier. Practice works, and it was a relief the first times to start fresh with new people. I was also following a path that I had actively chosen for myse…
Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?
#336Ecstasy. I had massive problems speaking with people. I ended up going to a rave with some friends, took some molly, had an amazing time talking to people and then realized that if I could do that with a drug then I could probably do it without a drug. (I haven’t done e in over a decade). I still had some issues with public speaking so during my mba I forced myself to give every presentation possible. This largely so…
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Sorry to be blunt, but this is clearly the morally infused cliché of "healthy people do not take drugs because drugs are bad mkay.". Cliché which seem to automatically give people the status of the most responsible person in the room for some reason.
Well I'd like to give a rebuttal. Saying no to drugs is saying no to the risk of taking the drug, that is true. But it is _also_ saying no to the potential benefit.
If, for the sake of argument, someone took that risk at 20, but had some incredible epiphany and radically changed their life for the better during the 30 years following the experiment, you can't say in good faith that it was _bad_. You _have_ to take into account that a better quality of life was exchanged for that risk. And in my opinion, refusing to see that is not automatically the responsible position, even if it is always portrayed as such.
Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?
#337It's an anxiety you're inflicting on yourself by trying to fit in groups you don't belong and trying to immitate behaviors that are not natural to you. You'll never succeed if you go like that. People appreciate authenticity. If you have to make effort then a) you won't look authentic, b) you will constantly have the stress of keeping up with that false persona.
You just have to let go, appreciate yourself how you are and then others will too. Be awkward, laugh at yourself being awkward, be weird and f*k everyone. If they don't like how you are then that's their problem, not yours. You'll find others that do.
Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?
#338Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't tell if this is sarcastic. Marijuana is both a "schedule 1 controlled substance" (which is a federal classification) and fully legal in 18 states. The term "schedule 1" doesn't say much about danger, which is not to say that there aren't dangerous drugs on the schedule 1 list.
Why are you bringing marijuana into an argument with about meth? What do you think the MA in MDMA stands for
This isn’t a very good argument. Table salt is literally Sodium and Chlorine, both of which are extremely toxic to humans but that’s irrelevant to anyone who understands that molecules have different effects than other molecules that share part of the same name.
Again though, mdma can kill you even if it’s completely pure. This is especially true if you take MAOIs or drink not enough/too much water or take any other meds that mess with serotonin. Please research things carefully.
Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?
#339Ecstasy. I had massive problems speaking with people. I ended up going to a rave with some friends, took some molly, had an amazing time talking to people and then realized that if I could do that with a drug then I could probably do it without a drug. (I haven’t done e in over a decade). I still had some issues with public speaking so during my mba I forced myself to give every presentation possible. This largely so…
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Re: Ask HN: If you used to be socially awkward and shy, how did you improve?
#340Earlier quoted context omitted.
US drug scheduling is incredibly political and does not reflect how harmful a drug is. As an example, cocaine is a schedule 2 drug but magic mushrooms, which has the lowest potential for harm (even lower than caffeine), is a schedule 1 drug.
Ecstasy is meth dude, it ruins a lot of peoples lives. I’ve seen it happen so maybe you’re personally responsible but there’s a lot of freaking people that aren’t. You can destroy their lies if they try your advice and it doesn’t work out
Meth will most likely ruin your life and you will want more and more.
MDMA is simply not very fun if you try taking it over and over again. It stops working and you just feel shitty for longer and longer periods without any feeling of getting high.
The problem is that a lot of molly that is sold today is full of things other than mdma. Meth is one of those things. You should absolutely use a test kit if you plan on taking anything.