Is "koko" also a slang for being crazy/unstable/insane in English, or is it just in Scandinavian languages this sounds a bit funny?
I think the word you're looking for is "cuckoo".
Launch HN: Koko (YC W22 Nonprofit) – Online Suicide Prevention Kit
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#22Is it just me or is it obvious that anyone who successfully goes through like _any_ intervention would show better results than someone who can’t? That just seems like an indicator of something about the individual or their circumstances instead of the effectiveness of the intervention. Do you compare your interventions with more typical interventions like calls to the Trevor project or something?
Also I think combining self harm with suicide resources might actually have a negative effect. If someone is searching something like hiding self harm marks from cutting and gets resources on suicide, it could trigger suicidal ideation when it wasn’t actually the issue they were seeking help with.
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#25Is it just me or is it obvious that anyone who successfully goes through like _any_ intervention would show better results than someone who can’t? That just seems like an indicator of something about the individual or their circumstances instead of the effectiveness of the intervention. Do you compare your interventions with more typical interventions like calls to the Trevor project or something? Also I think combin…
Great questions, thank you. Looking only at completers creates selection bias, for the reasons you articulate. In published studies, we compare interventions to control conditions (ideally an “active” control, or something that has some purported therapeutic benefit). We love the Trevor project and work hard to get candidates on our platform to that resource. We have done some comparisons with other life lines and the issue is some have incredibly long wait times and drop-offs. Ideally, we can offer both. For the suicide prevention lifeline, we’re a resource that’s listed that people can access while they wait.
It is very true that self-injury is not the same as suicidal ideation, though they can certainly overlap. A common thought is that asking about suicide or presenting resources could be harmful or ‘trigger’ more ideation. The evidence to date suggests, on the contrary, that asking about suicide can actually reduce risks. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24998511/ https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/the-british-journal-...
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#27Please consider creating Elixir bindings for this. I’d love to try use it for my site isitnormal.com where unfortunately I’ve had to deal with this issue for years (doing my best). Thanks! Amazing initiative!
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#28Please consider creating Elixir bindings for this. I’d love to try use it for my site isitnormal.com where unfortunately I’ve had to deal with this issue for years (doing my best). Thanks! Amazing initiative!
Thank you. We can release bindings for new languages very quickly. Just fill out our signup form and we'll prioritize Elixir. https://r.kokocares.org/api_signup/
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#29Please consider creating Elixir bindings for this. I’d love to try use it for my site isitnormal.com where unfortunately I’ve had to deal with this issue for years (doing my best). Thanks! Amazing initiative!
Thank you. We can release bindings for new languages very quickly. Just fill out our signup form and we'll prioritize Elixir. https://r.kokocares.org/api_signup/
Awesome, thanks. Signed up.
Re: Launch HN: Koko (YC W22 Nonprofit) – Online Suicide Prevention Kit
#30Sounds better than Reddit's system of 'suicide alerts': > "Reddit has partnered with Crisis Text Line to provide redditors who may be considering suicide or seriously hurting themselves with support from trained Crisis Counselors. If you’re worried about someone, you can let us know by reporting the specific post or comment that worried you and selecting, Someone is considering suicide or serious self-harm. After you…
Haha, that's actually more of a warning. If you don't quit posting about suicide, they temporarily suspend your account, then if you do it again, they permanently ban your account, and if you do it yet again (say, you're a complete loser who can't get through with it, with zero help and the only thing you can do is, well, complain about it online) you get permabanned based on your IP and email info. Even in the few s…
and, from my own experience, the whole idea of sending someone anti-suicide hotlines is a bit... insulting, honestly.
It's like if I had a chronic back condition, and instead of finding from people wanting to listen I get the equivalent of a flyer in the mail about back issues.
The person that was trying to ends the potentially uncomfortable conversation and gets to wash their hands of the situation, thinking they helped.
If you're suicidal and posting on social media, of course you know about the hotlines. Getting spammed with it is so discouraging though.
And, for what it's work, I live in the US, and have tried calling the major hotlines in two different episodes only to get a busy signal. A person to talk to what would have helped me most in that situation.
(And btw, I'm not saying people are obligated to help suicidal people. it's just if someone actually wants to help, a canned text response is not effective.)