Ummm, if it’s not 100% effective…
No birth control is 100% effective other than abstinence.
Well... There is also anal sex.
New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects
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Do we really need more people? America has almost 350 million, and is completely dwarfed by India and China. That seems like plenty of people to me.
This depends. Do you want someone to be able to take care of you after you retire? Medical care, that sort of thing? If so, that means that you need people. People younger than you. People with some sort of societal attachment to you that results in them not just tossing your entire generation into a metaphorical woodchipper, because taking care of old people is a ton of work. The traditional way to ensure that such…
When does it end? First we make generations of long-living old people, now we need generations of young people to care for them?
We are close to making fully functional life support and robotic nurses. It's more ethical to have robots do this labour than force young people out of their happiest days.
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#94"without side effects" is a hyper-bold statement, to be really sure about side effect any drug demand around 10 years after a certain level of adoption...
For instance vasectomy for years was considered "safe" even if "definitive" know we know, at least many suggest that vasectomy increase risk of prostate and testicular cancers.
So far the only "permanent" (well, for a certain number of years) contraceptive method we have is the copper IUD, it have menstrual cycle side effect but nothing irreversible or really dangerous.
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are the side effects really that much worse than what women have to deal with with their birth control? I’ve heard a lot of hormonal horror stories from women on the pill
From what I'm told the pill makes menstruation less painful and awkward for some women. To the point that they don't notice it very much. Perhaps there are different kinds but this is what I'm told..
And for others it's the opposite and some women have long lasting side-effects after quitting taking the pill (unregular menstruation is a common one).
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#97I feel like there's a male birth control on the horizon every year for the last ten years. This one hasn't hit human trials yet so no point getting excited.
There is Trestolone which is studied and shown to be very effective (patients had zero sperm in their ejaculate after several months of administering the compound), but there are hormonal side effects similar to testosterone, which kind of explains why it's pretty much only used in the bodybuilding community. The pill in the article is a non-hormonal one, which is interesting
Yeah most AAS or SARMs makes good birth control. Downside is it often needs to be run with a test base (depending on what stack) and it can be very hard to get natural test production and fertility back to what they were after going off. PCT is often not pleasant and still may not get it all the way back. I have a few buddies who ended up on lifetime TRT in early to mid 20s doing this. Stuff like HCG can help but is more $ and hassle. There was also some research that suggested it may itself be suppressive over a long enough term, though I think that's no longer current.
Bottom line: playing with the endocrine system is risky and not always reversible. I will likely not be taking a hormonal birth control untill I see a lot more longitudinal data.
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Or to kill. We need to be really careful that in our haste to make progress in environmental protection and gender equality, we don't find ourselves heading down the dark path towards eugenics or self-extinction.
Or to not have children that you don't want, which is what the discussion is about. We don't avoid killing ourselves or others because of its effects on the environment, which are great. We avoid killing ourselves and others due to other considerations. I bet you can name some so I don't have to.
> We avoid killing ourselves and others due to other considerations.
I'm not sure who this "we" is. Your reasons and mine may be different, and sadly some people can't accept any of these reasons.
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Do we really need more people? America has almost 350 million, and is completely dwarfed by India and China. That seems like plenty of people to me.
This depends. Do you want someone to be able to take care of you after you retire? Medical care, that sort of thing? If so, that means that you need people. People younger than you. People with some sort of societal attachment to you that results in them not just tossing your entire generation into a metaphorical woodchipper, because taking care of old people is a ton of work. The traditional way to ensure that such…
Exponential growth is unsustainable in the long term. Eventually we will have to come up with an alternative, might as well do it now.
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Vasalgel (a reversible injection that prevents your swimmers from making it into the sauce) is another interesting one that has never made it to release for perplexing reasons: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reversible_inhibition_of_sperm...
This one requires two injections right into the most awkward bit of ye old twig and berries, the first to numb the pain from the second. Afterwards you walk around sore with a swollen scrotum for a week. Doesn't seem that perplexing. Unless you're into that sort of thing, not that there is anything wrong with that..
Have you ever read about what it's like to get an IUD inserted? I would recommend checking that out and then asking whether a small injection to the genitals is really the worst possibility.