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New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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There is Trestolone which is studied and shown to be very effective (patients had zero sperm in their ejaculate after several months of administering the compound), but there are hormonal side effects similar to testosterone, which kind of explains why it's pretty much only used in the bodybuilding community. The pill in the article is a non-hormonal one, which is interesting

are the side effects really that much worse than what women have to deal with with their birth control? I’ve heard a lot of hormonal horror stories from women on the pill

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Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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Do we really need more people? America has almost 350 million, and is completely dwarfed by India and China. That seems like plenty of people to me.

This depends. Do you want someone to be able to take care of you after you retire? Medical care, that sort of thing? If so, that means that you need people. People younger than you. People with some sort of societal attachment to you that results in them not just tossing your entire generation into a metaphorical woodchipper, because taking care of old people is a ton of work. The traditional way to ensure that such…

But we don't parity or growth. A decline would would tax our systems less and we could still provide for our elderly.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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What happens to YCT529 when it's used up or if more than is used up in the body is taken? Is excess urinated out? What impact does that have on the environment?

If the body broke it down it wouldn’t be effective, so it would pass through and be expelled like most everything else the body is confused what to do with. Anything that affects mammalian fertility can have downstream effects unless the molecule is particularly unstable. Instability however is contrary to a birth control business model, as it introduces uncertainty (see: biodegradable conditions).

Aren't most medicines broken down in the body, and then excreted via urine? It's just a question of how fast the breaking down happens.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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I feel like there's a male birth control on the horizon every year for the last ten years. This one hasn't hit human trials yet so no point getting excited.

I've got the same feelings but it seems a bit more promising than others, and least here is some poor mice the trials conducted on

They tried monkeys already. Worked perfectly btw. You're welcome to volunteer for the human trials to spare the poor animals, I would except that I really really don't want to.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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In Western countries and in Asia, fertility rates are pretty (edit: low) these days. I fear they would collapse with the introduction of a male fertility pill. In some sense, maybe that's not bad. The world is probably overpopulated. But if fertility drops too fast it creates real demographics problems in that few young people need to support many old people.

Oral contraceptives are not as comfortable and easy to use as condoms, which are available everywhere. Taking drugs just to avoid pregnacy would be an alternative probably for people in relationships (instead of sometimes problematic womens contraceptives) and for people doing a lot of casual sex (who probably already use condoms/woman are on hormonal contraception).

This is not condoms vs not condoms. Condom use prevents the spread of STDs. Birth control helps prevent the spread of unwanted children and abortions. I don't find condoms comfortable at all and I'm married, so STDs are not my concern. Another kid is.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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In Western countries and in Asia, fertility rates are pretty (edit: low) these days. I fear they would collapse with the introduction of a male fertility pill. In some sense, maybe that's not bad. The world is probably overpopulated. But if fertility drops too fast it creates real demographics problems in that few young people need to support many old people.

> it creates real demographics problems in that few young people need to support many old people I think this problem is overrated, because at the same time they need to support many less children, youth and young adults. In other words, the ratio `adult workforce` vs. (`retired` + `children` + `in education`) is decreasing only very slowly. And we need a price tag for each of these elements to better assess its impa…

Averages are often misleading. Another set of key figures is the distribution of created value between earned income, capital income, and welfare payments.

When the number of retirees grows relative to the size of the workforce, there is a need to increase the share of capital income and/or welfare payments, because a larger fraction of people depends on them. In reality, the reverse is more likely to happen. The share of earned income is likely to increase due to labor shortage. Retirees will then be worse off, regardless of whether they depend on social security payments or savings.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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It’s kinda wild that women are basically expected to take on all the side effect risk of birth control and no one even questions it unless side effects are actually death (Remember Yaz?). I’m also curious about how blocking vitamin A doesn’t have side effects - don’t I need vitamin A?

Nutritional vitamin A can be absorbed separately from vitamin A receptors in the neural system.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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In Western countries and in Asia, fertility rates are pretty (edit: low) these days. I fear they would collapse with the introduction of a male fertility pill. In some sense, maybe that's not bad. The world is probably overpopulated. But if fertility drops too fast it creates real demographics problems in that few young people need to support many old people.

I see this comment about not enough young people to take care of the old. Why is this concern so common among, presumably, young people? Of the older people I know or have known, none are/were being taken care of by younger people. I'm a 57 bachelor and I know I'll never be taken care of by anybody.

Re: New Male Birth Control Pill Effectively Prevents Pregnancy Without Side Effects

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This depends. Do you want someone to be able to take care of you after you retire? Medical care, that sort of thing? If so, that means that you need people. People younger than you. People with some sort of societal attachment to you that results in them not just tossing your entire generation into a metaphorical woodchipper, because taking care of old people is a ton of work. The traditional way to ensure that such…

But we don't parity or growth. A decline would would tax our systems less and we could still provide for our elderly.

It depends on the systems. Social security is a system that would be under greater pressure, not less.
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