Horse breeding is a big business. That would probably be a good target for this sort of thing.
maybe falconry as well? big business in some parts of the world…
Maybe naked mole-rats as well?
FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef
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#102Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We are too many people on the earth for the resources that we are naturally given. The same old rant that we hear for like 100 years now "when we reach 1 billion people everyone will starve", "peak oil is just around the corner (back in the 70s)", and all this kind of bullshit. Resources are plentiful as long as you are ingenious when it comes to harvesting them.
like nuclear fusion, peak oil is perpetually 10-15 years away
American oil peaked and then declined almost exactly as expected, and only saw a second growth phase when a new category of resources became exploitable.
IMO, given the scale of everything in the USA, it’s more luck than anything else that the world is getting sufficiently cheap renewables and batteries on the right schedule to avoid peak oil actually harming civilisation in general and the USA catastrophically — the principle is a valid one, and in a hypothetical alternative world where global reserves had been half what they were, American rural areas would have had a much harder time than European equivalents adapting to electric power and long distance transport in the 70s.
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#103This might be an unpopular opinion here but if this puts more beef on the table or at a lesser price, bring it on. I love beef. I want more people to have access to good quality beef at a competitive price. The pandemic for me saw meat in general double in price on average. I can't in good faith consume corn, tomatoes, tobacco, or even broccoli while saying I don't support GMO. It is not the same but it also is not a…
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
For me the idea that a company can claim intellectual property rights to a genome sounds pretty awful. To be fair, I don't know if that's a real threat or not, but I could totally see it happening.
Yeah I agree, but I also feel the same way about software patents. I think it’s important to distinguish that objection from health scares, technophobia and such: imagine if the public’s objections were targeted at the real problems instead, how much more productive it would be!
That gives me a pretty cynical idea: the companies pushing GMOs should start funding and supporting groups who are vocal about the claimed adverse health effects of GMOs. That opposition is easy to argue against in public debate, and the resulting noise conveniently drowns out the real problems. Controlled opposition I think it's called.
Not surprisingly, I've learned about this concept from the Russian government.
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#105Address the real problem. We are too many people on the earth for the resources that we are naturally given. That's a fact.
Resorces are enough for all of us. But money is not. Money is collecting in the rich people's pocket. This is the real problem.
On a national scale, sure.
Worldwide (which is more relevant here), the absolute poorest of the poor, the people that would look up enviously to the accumulated wealth of a rough-sleeping westerner with a shopping trolley, are getting richer.
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#106If meat is designed and/or produced at lab, it is not meat. It is cancer. Do not eat cancer.
The first two sentences are so badly wrong I don’t even know which thread to pull on to unravel your thought processes. (I can’t speak for the third).
Do you believe that “natural” is tautologically equivalent to “good”?
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#107If meat is designed and/or produced at lab, it is not meat. It is cancer. Do not eat cancer.
Are cancerous cells unhealthy to eat?
I don’t know, but I do know some tumours are transmissible (even interspecies) so I wouldn’t want to rule it out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clonally_transmissible_cancer
I expect thorough cooking to prevent this sort of thing, but some people do eat raw flesh deliberately.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
> We are too many people on the earth for the resources that we are naturally given. The same old rant that we hear for like 100 years now "when we reach 1 billion people everyone will starve", "peak oil is just around the corner (back in the 70s)", and all this kind of bullshit. Resources are plentiful as long as you are ingenious when it comes to harvesting them.
Who is polluting the world ? Why are we breeding cattle which has modified genes for not sweating ? You say resources are plentiful but apploud (?) modified cattle so they don't sweat, so they don't pollute and so we all can keep eating meat. You really don't see a flaw in that ? Of course we are too many people. Denying that is really naive.
The number of humans that can live on this planet simultaneously is a function of technology.
If we all lived like hunters and gatherers, the population limit would be a mere few tens of millions.
Conversely, if we imagine arbitrary technology, the maximum population that can live simultaneously and sustainably on this world is somewhere in the trillions.
Technology such as the stuff you’re trying to use as evidence there’s too many of us, is in fact the technology that allows there to be more of us.
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#109From the 12+ Years on HN I know this is an unpopular opinion. I dont like GMO / Genome-edited cattle / food or crops. Even if it could theoretically occur through a natural breeding process. You can cross breed all you want. GMO is not cross breed as many on HN somehow believes last time we had this discussions. You can do Data Science and other controlled environment in providing better yield as in EUR ( Or specific…
I’m a biochemist, and I’d feed GMOs to my kids all day if I had any. Or to my mom. They’re totally fine.
Are you commenting on the safety of GMO DNA structure, and long-term biology?
Or are you approving the chemicals that are sprayed on GMOs because they can survive them?
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unknown unknowns
Why are you not worried about the unknown unknowns in literally any other area? Like, using microwave ovens, having TV broadcast signals, or wearing silk? Personally I'm reasonably confident that any significant adverse health effect would have been found by experiments by now, so Bayesian reasoning tells me any unknowns that are still unknown are probably negligible.
What if they are?