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FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Post by stefantalpalaru »

koonsolo wrote: post #57

In Belgium we have cows specifically breaded for meat, which are called "dikbil" =(fatbutt). It's extremely unnatural, so I'm very afraid what kind of monstrosity the industry can come up with when using gene manipulation. https://www.google.com/search?q=dikbil

> In Belgium we have cows specifically breaded for meat, which are called "dikbil" =(fatbutt). It's extremely unnatural

It's muscular hyperplasia obtained from inbreeding: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Belgian_Blue

They did the same thing in Piedmont, Italy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piedmontese_cattle

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Post by ben_w »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #47
karmakurtisaani wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cows by a wide margin, probably. And it's mainly their burps, actually.

Everyone forgets the missing methane output from the nearly extirpated bison population. Cattle in north america are only slightly more numerous than the peak bison population.

I wasn’t expecting to ask this when I woke up this morning but: how much methane did bison burp relative to the same biomass of modern cattle?

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Post by Timwi »

mping wrote: post #50
klondike_ wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't provide any argument for why you dislike GMO food here. What bothers you so much about GMO food? The fact is that humans have been breeding plants and animals to increase efficiency and palatability for thousands of years, and GMO is the next technological step.

Unknown unknowns

Why are you not worried about the unknown unknowns in literally any other area? Like, using microwave ovens, having TV broadcast signals, or wearing silk?

Personally I'm reasonably confident that any significant adverse health effect would have been found by experiments by now, so Bayesian reasoning tells me any unknowns that are still unknown are probably negligible.

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Post by lopis »

genousti wrote: post #79
bigDinosaur wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't know. My moral intitutions and reasoning fall apart if you remove suffering from the equation. By that logic it would also be okay to farm and eat humans if we eliminated their ability to suffer using CRISPR. What would you think of that? I don't even know where to start.

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> Yet u write this probably on an iphone or whatever computer where rate minerals where harvested by slaves who died doing so.

This is the lowest effort meme argument commonly found in any animal rights discussions.

Yes there are problems in the world. My choice of phone makes barely any difference ethically; thus I must leave society behind, lest im banned from arguing about anything at all? No, you evaluate what you have power over and act accordingly. I have access to all my nutrition in plat based food, so that's what I eat. I can afford and am able to use a Fairphone, so I do that. Defeatist comments like yours don't drive discussion nor help anyone, but those too lazy or accommodated to re-evaluate their impact on the world.

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Post by ben_w »

klondike_ wrote: post #27
Thorrez wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>And we may soon have Cattle labeled as GMO / Genome-Edit Free as selling point A lot of food I buy has labels saying GMO-free on it. Although maybe that's just to distinguish from GMO plants currently.

There are actually very few GMO crops available commercially. Mostly corn and wheat. The "No GMO" label is meaningless for most products that don't use these ingredients

Most of the hard cheese I eat was processed with genetically modified bacterial rennet, and would otherwise not be vegetarian.

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Post by [deleted] »

0des wrote: post #25

This might be an unpopular opinion here but if this puts more beef on the table or at a lesser price, bring it on. I love beef. I want more people to have access to good quality beef at a competitive price. The pandemic for me saw meat in general double in price on average. I can't in good faith consume corn, tomatoes, tobacco, or even broccoli while saying I don't support GMO. It is not the same but it also is not a…

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Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Post by [deleted] »

mgerdts wrote: post #11

I first thought “oh great more GMOs to maximize corporate profits while making animals miserable. Then my hopes rose with this: > They were bred with climate change in mind So they’ve found a way to have happy cows that burp less methane? No? Shorter hair so their methane burb greenhouse doesn’t feel so hot? Oh. This probably just boils down to profits after all.

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Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Post by wedn3sday »

betwixthewires wrote: post #23

I want to know what exactly was changed to help them "endure climate change" because to me it sounds like bullshit designed to create a proprietary cow genome with a pretty story to sell it.

I dont mean to sound condescending here, but it would have taken you 2-5 seconds to find the answer to your question. This comment is an example of bad internet discourse.

However! I agree that the who-owns-the-genes question is interesting.

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Post by Eduard »

klondike_ wrote: post #30
ksec wrote: post #8

From the 12+ Years on HN I know this is an unpopular opinion. I dont like GMO / Genome-edited cattle / food or crops. Even if it could theoretically occur through a natural breeding process. You can cross breed all you want. GMO is not cross breed as many on HN somehow believes last time we had this discussions. You can do Data Science and other controlled environment in providing better yield as in EUR ( Or specific…

You don't provide any argument for why you dislike GMO food here. What bothers you so much about GMO food? The fact is that humans have been breeding plants and animals to increase efficiency and palatability for thousands of years, and GMO is the next technological step.

You don't provide any argument for why you like GMO food here. What bothers you so much about food?

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Post by simulate-me »

klondike_ wrote: post #30
ksec wrote: post #8

From the 12+ Years on HN I know this is an unpopular opinion. I dont like GMO / Genome-edited cattle / food or crops. Even if it could theoretically occur through a natural breeding process. You can cross breed all you want. GMO is not cross breed as many on HN somehow believes last time we had this discussions. You can do Data Science and other controlled environment in providing better yield as in EUR ( Or specific…

You don't provide any argument for why you dislike GMO food here. What bothers you so much about GMO food? The fact is that humans have been breeding plants and animals to increase efficiency and palatability for thousands of years, and GMO is the next technological step.

GMO, as a technique, is not inherently bad. However, one common use case is to create pesticide resistant plants, which allows for higher pesticide usage, especially as resistance develops to the pesticide increases: https://enveurope.springeropen.com/articles/10.1186/2190-471...

Basically, if you’re fine with your kids ingesting higher levels of pesticides, then go for it!

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