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Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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Straight man here. I have a solution to all this and it's the same solution many (though my understanding not all) gay men practice: anal sex. It's all my wife and I do together. No pill needed! (Practice safe sex.)

Still not 100% proof. Things such as internal fissures and external trickles can still cause pregnancies. Granted, the risks are very low.

To be fair, birth control isn’t 100% either.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

#102

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Straight man here. I have a solution to all this and it's the same solution many (though my understanding not all) gay men practice: anal sex. It's all my wife and I do together. No pill needed! (Practice safe sex.)

Still not 100% proof. Things such as internal fissures and external trickles can still cause pregnancies. Granted, the risks are very low.

Wait, women can get pregnant through internal fissures of the intestines?

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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As a gay man, it's always a lot of fun to watch discussions on birth control for men. I personally have my money on that if/when they do launch for the public, they will be too expensive/difficult to get for basically forever, and women will continue to have to bear the cost of preventing pregnancies. "Men using birth control" would become the "hippie" thing to do that you will only see people in LA/NY do. I am very…

Straight man here. I have a solution to all this and it's the same solution many (though my understanding not all) gay men practice: anal sex. It's all my wife and I do together. No pill needed! (Practice safe sex.)

IMO that’s a similar tradeoff as condoms, though probably more cost-effective.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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Still not 100% proof. Things such as internal fissures and external trickles can still cause pregnancies. Granted, the risks are very low.

Wait, women can get pregnant through internal fissures of the intestines?

Not exactly the same, but in the 80s a woman without a vagina got pregnant by a stab in the abdomen shortly after having oral sex with her boyfriend.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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Profitability? A cheap one time procedure (ie. vasalgel) is far less lucrative than a pill that need to be bought repeatedly.

This has been my assumption as well. You'd think this would be a project the Gates foundation would jump on though

Is the gates foundation known for investing in things that don’t drive revenue for them?

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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I don't understand this take. If a woman doesn't want a kid she can get an abortion. If a man doesn't want a kid he better hope the woman feels the same or he is screwed. Women have almost all the power in this situation.

I once came across this statement, which has stuck with me: “All unwanted pregnancies are the result of irresponsible ejaculations.” And I haven’t been able to figure a situation that refutes that. The idea that a woman somehow has power in this situation misrepresents power dynamics and the reality of gender inequality in our society. If men don’t want a kid, or don’t want to risk a pregnancy, it is not difficult to…

No birth control (aside from sterilization) is 100% effective. If you consider all premarital sex, even "protected" sex, to be irresponsible, then that is a fair statement. But most people do not.

When it comes to elective abortion, I am personally most sympathetic to the case where the couple tried their best to prevent pregnancy and yet it happened anyway. (Of course, there is also the case of rape, where the woman should definitely have the option of abortion.)

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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The problem with male birth control pills is that it's the women who bear the bulk of the risk/responsibility when it comes to pregnancy. If a woman says "trust me, i'm on the pill" and lies -- they're the ones that get pregnant and likely get stuck raising the kid. Sure the father might be on the hook financially, but if the woman lied about their birth control and went forward with the pregnancy anyway it's not abs…

> If a woman says "trust me, i'm on the pill" and lies -- they're the ones that get pregnant and likely get stuck raising the kid. Sure the father might be on the hook financially, but if the woman lied about their birth control and went forward with the pregnancy anyway it's not absurd to imagine the father bailing on the situation.

And yet there are whole discussion boards dedicated to the subject how to best catch a man by getting yourself pregnant by him against his will.

I couldn't find a single one for men on how to catch a women by getting her pregnant against her will.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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That financial liability is 18 years of paying some double-digit percentage of your income to somebody that could be a almost a stranger for nothing in return. All those hours of work wasted is huge, so is the emotional toll of being cheated in such a large scale. Abortion as soon as you discover you're pregnant is just a pill and quite easy.

> Abortion as soon as you discover you're pregnant is just a pill and quite easy. You mean the intentional killing of a human being is "easy", I read this and I know society is doomed.

Nobody is required by law to sustain life of another human by making internals of your body available and risking your health and/or life.

Except for pregnant women.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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That financial liability is 18 years of paying some double-digit percentage of your income to somebody that could be a almost a stranger for nothing in return. All those hours of work wasted is huge, so is the emotional toll of being cheated in such a large scale. Abortion as soon as you discover you're pregnant is just a pill and quite easy.

> Abortion as soon as you discover you're pregnant is just a pill and quite easy. You mean the intentional killing of a human being is "easy", I read this and I know society is doomed.

We've been killing each other for thousands of years for far more trivial reasons than getting 18 years of financial obligations.

Re: Birth control pill for men could begin human trials later this year

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Is there any reason that the medical industry is pushing medicinal therapies to prevent pregnancy when a very promising procedure called vasalgel is just hanging on the vine? It is 1) highly effective, 2) non-hormonal/non-medicinal just a minor injection into the vas deferens 3) long lasting and reversible 4) dirt cheap. It's mind boggling how this has been able to progress beyond animal trials even though it's perfo…

I legitimately think Vasalgel will make history as one of the greatest advancements in human history, if it proves to be what it claims. It effectively provides men with an "on/off" switch for sperm production, without doing weird things to your hormones, without the trouble of remembering to take a pill.

I too am curious why research/development on it seems to have slowed. I wonder if it's possible to make a donation.

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