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FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

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post #10

Address the real problem. We are too many people on the earth for the resources that we are naturally given. That's a fact.

> We are too many people on the earth for the resources that we are naturally given. The same old rant that we hear for like 100 years now "when we reach 1 billion people everyone will starve", "peak oil is just around the corner (back in the 70s)", and all this kind of bullshit. Resources are plentiful as long as you are ingenious when it comes to harvesting them.

Who is polluting the world ?

Why are we breeding cattle which has modified genes for not sweating ?

You say resources are plentiful but apploud (?) modified cattle so they don't sweat, so they don't pollute and so we all can keep eating meat. You really don't see a flaw in that ?

Of course we are too many people. Denying that is really naive.

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

#33
post #25

This might be an unpopular opinion here but if this puts more beef on the table or at a lesser price, bring it on. I love beef. I want more people to have access to good quality beef at a competitive price. The pandemic for me saw meat in general double in price on average. I can't in good faith consume corn, tomatoes, tobacco, or even broccoli while saying I don't support GMO. It is not the same but it also is not a…

if you have literally no concern about the suffering of animals, then it's a good thing. If you think that the suffering of animals outweighs people's preferences (not needs, you can thrive on a vegetarian diet) then this is absolutely not good. I'm happy to see high prices for beef, and would be happy if everyone was priced out of eating it. As second best, I'd be happy if people at least considered the suffering that went into their food production and chose to reduce that consumption even if they feel they cannot eliminate it.

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

#34
post #11

I first thought “oh great more GMOs to maximize corporate profits while making animals miserable. Then my hopes rose with this: > They were bred with climate change in mind So they’ve found a way to have happy cows that burp less methane? No? Shorter hair so their methane burb greenhouse doesn’t feel so hot? Oh. This probably just boils down to profits after all.

I wonder which one effectfull to climate change, people's total farts vs the total farts of cows in the world?

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

#35
post #25

This might be an unpopular opinion here but if this puts more beef on the table or at a lesser price, bring it on. I love beef. I want more people to have access to good quality beef at a competitive price. The pandemic for me saw meat in general double in price on average. I can't in good faith consume corn, tomatoes, tobacco, or even broccoli while saying I don't support GMO. It is not the same but it also is not a…

if you have literally no concern about the suffering of animals, then it's a good thing. If you think that the suffering of animals outweighs people's preferences (not needs, you can thrive on a vegetarian diet) then this is absolutely not good. I'm happy to see high prices for beef, and would be happy if everyone was priced out of eating it. As second best, I'd be happy if people at least considered the suffering th…

I agree. I think eating meat is abhorrent, and genetically mutilating animals even more so. Selective breeding is one thing, but this opens the doors to all kinds of ‘design gene’ questions that I don’t think the world is ready for, or ever should be.

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

#36

Address the real problem. We are too many people on the earth for the resources that we are naturally given. That's a fact.

Even if we were to accept that fact as stated (I don't, but let's assume we do..) What are you proposing, exactly? It sounds like "address the real problem" here means you are suggesting killing people off. That definitely doesn't seem like a good answer. China tried the one child policy, and it didn't turn out very well. The second order effects were pretty awful, and will be felt for generations. What would you sug…

Based on how we exploit our resources and the amount of people that are wealthy enough to live a good-standard life, we are definitely too many people on earth.

Of course I don't suggest killing people, why would you even suggest such a thing ?

I suggest people start to educate themselves and eachother. Instead of having kids, adopt. Instead of eating meat 5 days a week, eat it twice. Start using a bike and not a car.

But people don't think about the consequences for the next generations, and "we are empowered to have our own kids etc". People really don't give a fuck about the state of the world as long as they can get what they believe they are entitled to through life. And that's a problem.

Start accepting that and start accepting the how exploit what we have dear and have been given as being part of the world.

We are way too many people for all of us to live decent life's.

Re: FDA Approves First CRISPR Cows for Beef

#38

I want to know what exactly was changed to help them "endure climate change" because to me it sounds like bullshit designed to create a proprietary cow genome with a pretty story to sell it.

Also 'endure climate change' is so grossly ironic.

Instead of factoring in the costs of our actions, engineer ways to lower price and feed more demand -> and thus creating more methane, forest destruction, emissions from feed, huge waste of water, and all the gas shipping it a continent away.

If people won't reduce their beef consumption, maybe we can crispr out some methane (seems not possible just based on chemistry but who knows?). Or maybe just let the real price with externalities lower consumption.

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