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Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by symlinkk »

wbsss4412 wrote: post #53
aunty_helen wrote: post #44

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I’m just catching up on this, can someone explain to me what happens if you drink raw milk? Edit: thanks for the answers everyone. My mum’s a dairy farmer and so was I during my high school weekends. My family’s been drinking raw milk for the past 20 or so years. So it’s interesting to know what scary stuff is out there lurking and that a debate has formed around something I had grown to normalize. Tb is obviously a…

Your question isn’t very clear. Raw milk itself isn’t bad, it’s just very very easy to get contaminated with pathogenic bacteria. Proponents of raw milk claim it has health benefits due to the lack of cooking, both on a chemical level and a bacterial level.

This is such a HN answer.

"It's not bad for you, it just makes it incredibly likely to get contaminated with pathogenic bacteria"

Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by Reggie_Walls »

elhudy wrote: post #21

I put raw cream in my coffee daily, but don’t have the balls to drink raw milk. That said, it makes fantastic yogurt. I don’t really understand the concept of illegal raw milk though. Why can’t people consume raw milk if they want? If anything, make it illegal to feed to children (except of course, raw breast milk!!)

I used to get illegal raw milk delivered in the US. I don't think it should be legal for reasons mentioned in the article (poison risk). There are enough alternatives now that prohibition works.

Counterarguments? Is there a big need for dairy milk if, say, oat milk or something else can provide the calcium and other vital nutrients Americans usually get from milk?

Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by ravenstine »

throwawaylinux wrote: post #23
ravenstine wrote: post #7

Honestly, I suspect this kind of thing happens as a result of a diet devoid of microbial life and non-denatured proteins. I used to get not full on sick, but pretty sick after eating raw or partially raw meat. You may think it's crazy, but I just continued doing it and eventually stopped getting diarrhea and cramps. David Blaine (I think) talked about a similar effect from when he practiced swallowing live frogs. He…

Why were you eating raw meat, may I ask?

I kept under-cooking burger patties to the point where they were still raw in the middle and thought "f** it" and ate them anyway. Then I moved on to eating straight raw meat for the novelty of it. I'm not sure that I'd eat raw pork, but supposedly today's regulations have mostly eliminated the possibility of trichinosis. Otherwise, I've found raw meat to be way less hazardous than I was lead to believe. I don't advocate for it, and I at least like a good sear on my steak. My risk tolerance is much less than that of many people, for better or for worse.

Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by notsureaboutpg »

elhudy wrote: post #21

I put raw cream in my coffee daily, but don’t have the balls to drink raw milk. That said, it makes fantastic yogurt. I don’t really understand the concept of illegal raw milk though. Why can’t people consume raw milk if they want? If anything, make it illegal to feed to children (except of course, raw breast milk!!)

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Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by jrmg »

markdown wrote: post #47
inopinatus wrote: post #38

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Do you want shorter average lifespans? This is how you get them. By ignoring advances in things like food safety. > I used to get not full on sick, but pretty sick after eating raw or partially raw meat. You may think it's crazy, but I just continued doing it and eventually stopped getting diarrhea and cramps. This kills some people. Health advice isn't about you, it's about everyone. See also: wearing a mask during…

What a first-world take. And not just a first-world take, but a city-slicker first-world take. Auto-immune diseases and allergies are killing people and ruining lives. A little bit of bacteria doesn't hurt.

Current, modern day humans live longer, healthier lives than any who have ever lived before.

Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by notsureaboutpg »

ravenstine wrote: post #49
inopinatus wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you want shorter average lifespans? This is how you get them. By ignoring advances in things like food safety. > I used to get not full on sick, but pretty sick after eating raw or partially raw meat. You may think it's crazy, but I just continued doing it and eventually stopped getting diarrhea and cramps. This kills some people. Health advice isn't about you, it's about everyone. See also: wearing a mask during…

> Health advice isn't about you, it's about everyone. See also: wearing a mask during a pandemic. That's not even remotely comparable. If someone else could die from drinking raw milk, what business is it of theirs that I choose to drink gallons of it and live to tell the tale? The whole point of the legalization is to legalize the consumption . Did you read the article?

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Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by RC_ITR »

mngnt wrote: post #59

When I was a kid, we lived in a village in northeastern Slovakia. On the hill above the village there was a farm with a big herd of cows. And every morning at around 5, a tractor would bring a few dozen litres of milk down to a small shack just by our house. People were usually waiting in line already, in a room that stank of rancid milk, to get a liter or two. When we brought the milk home, we'd pour a cup and let i…

It’s amazing that in a supposedly science-driven forum, an entire set of comments can imply that pasteurization, one of humanity’s great accomplishments, is a folly.

People die from drinking raw milk. It is genuinely a risky thing to do. Not everyone will die but enough that society should work hard to limit it as much as possible.

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