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Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by fmakunbound »

aunty_helen wrote: post #44
elhudy wrote: post #21

I put raw cream in my coffee daily, but don’t have the balls to drink raw milk. That said, it makes fantastic yogurt. I don’t really understand the concept of illegal raw milk though. Why can’t people consume raw milk if they want? If anything, make it illegal to feed to children (except of course, raw breast milk!!)

I’m just catching up on this, can someone explain to me what happens if you drink raw milk? Edit: thanks for the answers everyone. My mum’s a dairy farmer and so was I during my high school weekends. My family’s been drinking raw milk for the past 20 or so years. So it’s interesting to know what scary stuff is out there lurking and that a debate has formed around something I had grown to normalize. Tb is obviously a…

“tuberculosis, diphtheria, typhoid, Campylobacter, Listeria, Brucella, E. coli, Salmonella, and streptococcal infections” apparently.

Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by markdown »

nomilk wrote: post #29
audiometry wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That’s definitely true for me at least for chili peppers. In fact I think my reaction has worsened over time even after decreasing exposure to them. Such a pity—makes food taste so good.

Another example is Fijian 'kava' (a root that is crushed and dried into a powder, then filtered into water and consumed as a drink). It has a reverse tolerance: those who consume it more frequently typically get more affected by it, and those who've had little before may not feel any effect.

Always a delight to see kava being discussed in unexpected places. Say bula at r/kava!

Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by wbsss4412 »

aunty_helen wrote: post #44
elhudy wrote: post #21

I put raw cream in my coffee daily, but don’t have the balls to drink raw milk. That said, it makes fantastic yogurt. I don’t really understand the concept of illegal raw milk though. Why can’t people consume raw milk if they want? If anything, make it illegal to feed to children (except of course, raw breast milk!!)

I’m just catching up on this, can someone explain to me what happens if you drink raw milk? Edit: thanks for the answers everyone. My mum’s a dairy farmer and so was I during my high school weekends. My family’s been drinking raw milk for the past 20 or so years. So it’s interesting to know what scary stuff is out there lurking and that a debate has formed around something I had grown to normalize. Tb is obviously a…

Your question isn’t very clear.

Raw milk itself isn’t bad, it’s just very very easy to get contaminated with pathogenic bacteria.

Proponents of raw milk claim it has health benefits due to the lack of cooking, both on a chemical level and a bacterial level.

Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by greggsy »

aunty_helen wrote: post #44
elhudy wrote: post #21

I put raw cream in my coffee daily, but don’t have the balls to drink raw milk. That said, it makes fantastic yogurt. I don’t really understand the concept of illegal raw milk though. Why can’t people consume raw milk if they want? If anything, make it illegal to feed to children (except of course, raw breast milk!!)

I’m just catching up on this, can someone explain to me what happens if you drink raw milk? Edit: thanks for the answers everyone. My mum’s a dairy farmer and so was I during my high school weekends. My family’s been drinking raw milk for the past 20 or so years. So it’s interesting to know what scary stuff is out there lurking and that a debate has formed around something I had grown to normalize. Tb is obviously a…

FTA:

>“Raw milk is not pasteurized, or heated up to a temperature of 140 degrees F for 20 minutes, a process that kills off bacteria that can cause foodborne illness, including Salmonella, listeria, and E. coli.

TL;DR: food poisoning

Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by markdown »

throwawaylinux wrote: post #23
ravenstine wrote: post #7

Honestly, I suspect this kind of thing happens as a result of a diet devoid of microbial life and non-denatured proteins. I used to get not full on sick, but pretty sick after eating raw or partially raw meat. You may think it's crazy, but I just continued doing it and eventually stopped getting diarrhea and cramps. David Blaine (I think) talked about a similar effect from when he practiced swallowing live frogs. He…

Why were you eating raw meat, may I ask?

Raw fish can be delicious. Fijian kokoda is chef's kiss.

Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by bremac »

markdown wrote: post #47
inopinatus wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you want shorter average lifespans? This is how you get them. By ignoring advances in things like food safety. > I used to get not full on sick, but pretty sick after eating raw or partially raw meat. You may think it's crazy, but I just continued doing it and eventually stopped getting diarrhea and cramps. This kills some people. Health advice isn't about you, it's about everyone. See also: wearing a mask during…

What a first-world take. And not just a first-world take, but a city-slicker first-world take. Auto-immune diseases and allergies are killing people and ruining lives. A little bit of bacteria doesn't hurt.

As someone who grew up on a dairy farm, who worked on a farm, and who has friends and family operating their own farms, I'd like to point out that this is backwards. Farmers know that bacteria can make them sick or even kill them. It's the city-slickers who have never been truly ill who think that they're harmless.

Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by mngnt »

When I was a kid, we lived in a village in northeastern Slovakia. On the hill above the village there was a farm with a big herd of cows. And every morning at around 5, a tractor would bring a few dozen litres of milk down to a small shack just by our house. People were usually waiting in line already, in a room that stank of rancid milk, to get a liter or two.

When we brought the milk home, we'd pour a cup and let it sit a few minutes, to let the cream to get to the top. You could see the line between milk and cream with your eye an scoop the cream with a spoon. We drank the cream, it could have been 20% by volume, we made cocoa with the milk and no one got sick that I remember. I believe it was because we were usted to it, an "untrained" person would get sick too.

Then one year they put up a sign, saying the milk should only be used as animal feed and a few years back the laws changed again and there was no more selling and drinkig grey market raw milk, because someone decided for all the people that it's dangerous.

I thing my distaste of regulations and prohibitions can be traced back to that time.

Funny thing, I think I would get violenty sick if I tried raw milk again... The law is a self fulfilling prophecy.

Re: Lawmakers Drink Raw Milk to Celebrate Legality, Become Immediately Sick (2016)

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Post by gotaquestion »

throwawaylinux wrote: post #23
ravenstine wrote: post #7

Honestly, I suspect this kind of thing happens as a result of a diet devoid of microbial life and non-denatured proteins. I used to get not full on sick, but pretty sick after eating raw or partially raw meat. You may think it's crazy, but I just continued doing it and eventually stopped getting diarrhea and cramps. David Blaine (I think) talked about a similar effect from when he practiced swallowing live frogs. He…

Why were you eating raw meat, may I ask?

Steak tartare and carpaccio are two raw beef dishes that I love that are common in France and Italy, respectively. There are many others.

But American food practices are so awful that it is impossible to eat raw meat here, mostly: some places are careful. That's why cows are pumped full of antibacterials: because they are given growth hormones until their udders rip, and are constantly infected.

This doesn't happen in parts of the world where animals are raised and slaughtered in non-high-density, full-speed-ahead industrial production.

The main reason America needs so many food laws is because they try to scale everything up so that people can eat steaks every day for pennies. I'm exaggerating, but only a little. Americans gotta have it all, and you can raise animals ethically, safely, and without drugs with that kind of entitlement. That's why food tastes so much better in provincial parts of Europe, it's not a myth.

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