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Re: Pidgin: The Universal Chat Client

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3np wrote: post #120
mdasen wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe I'll look into it more, but it feels messy and complicated at first glance. Portal rooms, plumbed rooms, bridgebot bridges, Bot-API bridges, puppeted bridges, double-puppeted bridges, server-to-server briding, and sidecar bridges. I haven't used it so some of this may be wrong and I'm happy to accept corrections. It seems like a puppeted bridge requires me to send the messages to the Matrix server who then has…

> It seems like a puppeted bridge requires me to send the messages to the Matrix server who then has a login to my FB Messenger to read/write messages there. I'm not going to run my own Matrix server so that requires me to trust a Matrix server with access to my Facebook. This is kind of how it's done today but also not exactly. The bridge (which is what has access to your account and messages) is its own process and…

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Re: Pidgin: The Universal Chat Client

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Post by pabs3 »

mdasen wrote: post #7

I really miss Adium ( https://adium.im ) which was based on Pidgin's libpurple. Adium had such a great user experience. It was built with native widgets and also incorporated chat themes that were implemented using WebKit's rendering ( https://www.adiumxtras.com/index.php?a=search&cat_id=5&sort=... ). It was fast and memory friendly given that it was a native app and the themes were just small templates offering a di…

Pidgin has plugins for a lot of those protocols now, notably not iMessage though.

https://pidgin.im/plugins/

Re: Pidgin: The Universal Chat Client

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Post by fiddlerwoaroof »

heavyset_go wrote: post #104
mdasen wrote: post #7

I really miss Adium ( https://adium.im ) which was based on Pidgin's libpurple. Adium had such a great user experience. It was built with native widgets and also incorporated chat themes that were implemented using WebKit's rendering ( https://www.adiumxtras.com/index.php?a=search&cat_id=5&sort=... ). It was fast and memory friendly given that it was a native app and the themes were just small templates offering a di…

That time period was magical for interoperability of services, P2P and open protocols. The tech landscape today would look much different if the principles of that era were adhered to today. Instead, the "interoperability" we get today is the result of multibillion dollar corporations making partnerships with each other, while independent developers are locked out. As an example, Google gets access to streaming servi…

Does the European DMA law indicate a possible return of this? It sounds like Europe is about to require interoperability between Facebook Messenger-likes and other clients.

Re: Pidgin: The Universal Chat Client

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greatquux wrote: post #79

I still use Pidgin for XMPP and the increasingly-unreliable-Facebook-Messenger plugin, along with a Gnome extension that allows me to reply directly to chat popups from the notification no matter what virtual desktop I'm on. I really can't get that combination anywhere else in fact and I hope it never stops working. :)

Which GNOME extension is that? Sounds like something I would be happy to have!

Re: Pidgin: The Universal Chat Client

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Post by pabs3 »

shashurup wrote: post #19

I definitely liked it, however, since whatsapp, telegram, slack etc had joined the game with mostly proprietary protocols it looks like it just has no chance to catch up and it is very sad - I find the ability to choose a client quite important. P.S. I have even written a plugin for - quickpurple

Pidgin has plugins for most modern protocols:

https://pidgin.im/plugins/

Re: Pidgin: The Universal Chat Client

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Post by joecot »

pabs3 wrote: post #125
sequoia wrote: post #93

Q: What happened to Pidgin? A: Google & Facebook shut down their XMPP gateways to force you into their apps. All the sudden you can no longer use Pidgin to communicate with people on google & facebook. At least that was my experience. I used to use Pidgin with OTR[0] for e2e encrypted chat over google & facebook. It was pretty fantastic, messages were inaccessible to facebook and google even with a court order so I d…

Pidgin has plugins for Google and Facebook now. https://pidgin.im/plugins/ BTW, OTRv3 has pretty poor security these days, there is OTRv4 but it isn't ready for users yet. https://bugs.otr.im/otrv4/otrv4

I went to try the Pidgin Facebook plugin, and I couldn't login. There's no more app passwords as the plugin suggests, if you try to login without the 2 factor Facebook sends "Is This You?" notifications every time, but doesn't let you login if you say yes.

There's github issue[1] for it and no resolution, except a weird python script hack to do 2 factor which may or may not be reliable.

1. https://github.com/dequis/purple-facebook/issues/526

Re: Pidgin: The Universal Chat Client

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Post by pabs3 »

wjt wrote: post #91
bergie wrote: post #82

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The messaging app on the Nokia N900 was also based on libpurple. You had all of your Google Talk and Skype contacts and chats, together with SMS in a single place.

It was based on Telepathy https://telepathy.freedesktop.org/ . None of the built-in backends for XMPP, SIP, Skype and cellular calls used libpurple. (A libpurple-based backend could be installed from the community app repo.)

I wish Telepathy got more popularity, it seemed to be a better architecture than Pidgin/libpurple with the protocol support in separate processes etc.
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