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Re: ReVanced

#181

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No. If your business model is ads, I won't support you. I'll find a way to block your ads and I'll tell everyone who will listen how to do the same. I don't appreciate being brainwashed just so creators can get paid.

Why not just stop watching the videos? Then you’re not exposed to ads.

Because I don't have to. The videos are free.

Re: ReVanced

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post #171

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No. If your business model is ads, I won't support you. I'll find a way to block your ads and I'll tell everyone who will listen how to do the same. I don't appreciate being brainwashed just so creators can get paid.

> If your business model is ads But... The point is exactly that the business model is either ads or you pay directly. Your response is that because there's the ad option ( which let's face it, the vast majority of people prefer), you wouldn't pay to remove ads? That doesn't really make any sense. You can't rail against ad-based business models and not accept the only possible alternative.

> Your response is that because there's the ad option ( which let's face it, the vast majority of people prefer), you wouldn't pay to remove ads?

Yes, I'm not gonna pay to remove ads. Paying doesn't actually remove all ads, just YouTube's, it won't do a thing to the paid promotion segments in videos. Paying also makes my attention even more valuable to advertisers, I want it to have zero if not negative value. It also doesn't stop adtech's endless tracking and surveillance capitalism, it encourages it.

> You can't rail against ad-based business models and not accept the only possible alternative.

That's far from the only alternative. You can charge money for your work up front. You can make a patreon, I've seen plenty of YouTube creators doing this with considerable success.

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#183
Could anyone who is familiar with Java/Kotlin/Android explain how does this work?

I tried decompiling YouTube App on Android to remove the ads some time ago, but I failed to compile it back because some kind of security thing did not allow the app to start.

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#184

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> It's crazy how far people will go to justify taking food off other people's plate. We don't have to justify it. We simply don't want to see ads. That's the end of it. The second they insist on showing us ads despite our preferences, their software becomes malware and will be blocked. And nobody is "taking" anything off anyone's plate. They're the ones sending us free stuff bundled with ads. We're just deleting the…

If you don’t watch the videos, then you won’t see the ads, no?

Yeah, but I'll watch the videos anyway. Because they're free, I'm not obligated to pay attention to ads and uBlock Origin gets rid of them.

Re: ReVanced

#185
post #47

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BTW, Firefox on mobile lets you do that as well.

Firefox for Android also supports uBlock Origin

..but, unfortunately doesn't have text-reflow.

Yandex Browser has text-reflow and used to support uBlock Origin [and other extensions] too. Now it no longer supports installing uBO. So Android currently has two browsers, each of which is half useful!

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#186
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I'm not sure it's worth the $20 per month for a family plan of up to five either.

$4/person for music streaming, and all the video on the internet, without ads? What is a fair price for you?

zero because they didn't do the creation work in the first place and they don't share their revenue with the creators. So how about that?

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#187

I have a feeling that any piece of closed-source software that becomes important enough will inevitably be reverse engineered by highly motivated people. This is doubly so for Vanced: The original team took pains to not release the source, but it merely took a few weeks for someone else to reverse engineer the reverse engineered codebase. I've worked on preserving a few games with decompilers long after the original…

I don't know much about the topic so forgive my ignorance, but aren't Android apps written in Java/JVM language? Meaning decompilation should be really straightforward, I remember IntelliJ having a decompiler, many times I would accidental open a `class` file and it would suggest decompilation. This kind of code was still hard to read, but it was Java, not bytecode.

Android has ProGuard, which makes decompilation harder, but certainly not impossible if one is motivated enough.

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#189
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Youtube's frequency of ads has become so extreme that I've just yesterday opted to pay 11€/month for YT Premium. I had tried before disabling them with a Pihole or by blocking domains. It didn't work. Also, on a Samsung TV, you can't really install another front end.

This is cable tv all over again. Pretty soon there will be ads on paid YouTube subscriptions too, mark my words.

No doubt. YouTube premium customers are just providing disposable income data to advertisers. They've segmented the market, it's only a matter of time before some manager looks at how much more valuable the premium group is and decides to show ads to them too because doing otherwise is leaving money on the table.
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