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37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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post #16

Has the title editorializing rule been dropped? I see even more posts with changed titles when the original isn't particularly misleading.

I've been more aware of title changes lately, but I don't know if the frequency has increased. Some of them have been egregious. I'm a fan of changes like this one, though. I can't stand clickbait titles like this article has.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

After covid we have some vague stats and yeah not everybody enjoy full remote. But 1) there's a large pool of people that do, 2) you can have hybrid 3) unless no other colleague goes to the workplace you may enjoy some workplace social context 4) we need to reduce energy expenditure and not commuting seems like a massive gain.

Unfortunately, the best remote setups are in low-density places with large homes. People moving from NYC and SF to Wyoming and Austin are going to be living in sprawl. There vehicle miles traveled (VMT) are going to increase: after all it’s not going to be a lockdown where white collar workers stay inside 24/7.

So (honest question), you think people doing remote-friendly jobs are in dense urban areas and don't contribute to car emission much ? so when these guys relocate far away, they're going to switch from public transportation to car ?

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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post #5

100% of the jobs I want to do can be performed entirely at home, but I prefer to do 100% of them in an office.

Not trying to be sarcastic. I genuinely asking. Why? I'm not a fan of the office because: 1. I don't like the commute 2. I have an office in my house, but at the "office"; I would be sharing some kind of space. 3. now that covid is less of an issue I plan on going to lunch more with freinds.

1. Commute is a nice way to get some alone time and unwind after work (admittedly, I wouldn't mind a shorter one though, say 15 min)

2. At home there are many more distractions (kids)

3. At work there are nice people to talk to/interact with

4. Getting lunch with coworkers is a nice way to bond and discuss ideas

5. All my friends moved away during the pandemic, and an office is a good way to make new friends

6. IME, meeting in person leads to friendlier interactions, whereas virtual interactions tend to be more hostile

7. The separation of home/office life makes it easier to focus

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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post #4

Now think about the economic savings in the areas of energy and capital depreciation on cars. The overall economic efficiency boost from this could be unbelievably huge, not to mention the environmental benefits of less routine commuting. I wouldn't be surprised if this approves economic efficiency by trillions of dollars.

Also, the effect this would have on reducing rent and cost of living.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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post #2

But execs want you to commute because their mindset is to make worker's life miserable, and working from home is seem like a privilege.

Not everyone loves WFH, you know.

I don’t mind coming into the office, as needed. What I do mind is being required to be someplace daily to assuage the ego of of some C-suite stuffed suit.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

and a commercial real estate crash would be bad for the company's bottom line

I see this everywhere but I can't see how it's true. I'm guessing that a company's largest expenses are (probably in order, too): People, Technology, Office space. Most companies, especially smaller companies, do not actually own the office space they are in, they lease it. Commercial real estate crashing would greatly reduce one of their top 3 expenses... how is that bad for the bottom line?

Yeah exactly. If they signed a multi-year lease, they are still on the hook for the same amount of money but the space won't be used. It might feel bad but it was already budgeted for.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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post #5

100% of the jobs I want to do can be performed entirely at home, but I prefer to do 100% of them in an office.

Exactly — yet so many people can’t accept that ANYONE might want to work from an office. My assumption is that people who love WFH are generally suburbanites who can’t fathom getting to work involves anything other than sitting in traffic for two hours.

The vast vast majority of people don't have 2 hour commutes. This is pretty much an LA or NYC thing. There are other cities in the US and none of them require insane commutes like this.

My drive to work is 7 minutes, I live in a suburban neighborhood. I don't work in the office because there's no need for it.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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The coding used by this survey is a joke. If 40% of an occupation says they work outdoors that's below 50% so it's bucketed into the work from home category on that criterion. I think if even 20% of a job is saying they work outdoors that's pretty strong evidence you're missing some information about what the other 80% are doing in their job that prevents it from being a work from home job. The net result of their setup is obviously a vast overestimate so take the 37% number with a grain of salt.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly — yet so many people can’t accept that ANYONE might want to work from an office. My assumption is that people who love WFH are generally suburbanites who can’t fathom getting to work involves anything other than sitting in traffic for two hours.

Who are these people who can't accept that anyone wants to work from an office? If there are so many of them, can we see some examples? Office work is not just about the commute, it is also about terrible work conditions where you may be seated in an open space shared by support, engineers, sales, etc. "So many people can't accept that ANYONE is more productive in a remote setting". This "us vs them" discourse is so…

Just look at the comments in this thread. Plenty of people seem to assume that no one actually wants to go to the office.

Re: 37% of jobs in the United States can be performed entirely at home

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post #5

100% of the jobs I want to do can be performed entirely at home, but I prefer to do 100% of them in an office.

Exactly — yet so many people can’t accept that ANYONE might want to work from an office. My assumption is that people who love WFH are generally suburbanites who can’t fathom getting to work involves anything other than sitting in traffic for two hours.

People are not great at empathy.

If you have small kids working from an office gives you a good place to work with, hopefully, less distractions.

Some people like commuting because its their me time. Some people like the socialization being in an office gives them. Some careers/roles are easier when you can walk over to someones desk and talk to them.

There are plenty of reasons why working in an office might be interesting to someone. Just like there are plenty of reasons why working fully remotely is interesting to someone.

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