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Re: ReVanced

#41

Post by pbasista »

timdaub wrote: post #7

Youtube's frequency of ads has become so extreme that I've just yesterday opted to pay 11€/month for YT Premium. I had tried before disabling them with a Pihole or by blocking domains. It didn't work. Also, on a Samsung TV, you can't really install another front end.

With TVs it is especially important to look at the _software_ it comes with. If it is some locked-down piece which requires the blessing of the manufacturer to install anything on it, then I would stay away from such TVs.

It seems to me that Android TVs offer at least some degree of customization because it is possible to install apps there. But the value you get from them depends on whether you can get the root access and on other restrictions the manufacturer has imposed on it. So, in general it is not an ideal usage model.

In my opinion, a pure Linux TVs would be much better. For instance, running Kodi as a frontend with TVHeadend or minisatip as a backend. They would of course have plenty of possibilities to play other media and would be fully customizable, giving the customer a _choice_ to consider and utilize that capability. In my opinion, there is a reasonably sized market for such TVs.

Re: ReVanced

#42

Post by nullandvoid »

timdaub wrote: post #7

Youtube's frequency of ads has become so extreme that I've just yesterday opted to pay 11€/month for YT Premium. I had tried before disabling them with a Pihole or by blocking domains. It didn't work. Also, on a Samsung TV, you can't really install another front end.

I use ublock origin + sponsorblock + ddg privacy extension, and haven't had ads on YouTube in years

Also you can just use invidious on mobile (and presumably on your TV) for the same experience (minus the sponsor / merch flogging skips which are fantasic)

Re: ReVanced

#43

Post by majinuub »

zozbot234 wrote: post #16

Quoted post unavailable.

It's a subpar service not worth the price they're charging. Sure there are no ads, but they still track the hell out of you. I might as well use this free improvement of YouTube's app.

Re: ReVanced

#44

Post by dspillett »

emsy wrote: post #23
omginternets wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is cable tv all over again. Pretty soon there will be ads on paid YouTube subscriptions too, mark my words.

There are: “now for a quick word about this week’s sponsor”

There is a difference there in that the sponsorship money all goes to the content creator, rather than to YT who may or may not (at their whim) share a small portion with whoever posted the video (which is far from always the content creator).

They also aren't stalking you around everything you do on the Internet in the name of targetting.

Re: ReVanced

#45

Post by 999900000999 »

timdaub wrote: post #7

Youtube's frequency of ads has become so extreme that I've just yesterday opted to pay 11€/month for YT Premium. I had tried before disabling them with a Pihole or by blocking domains. It didn't work. Also, on a Samsung TV, you can't really install another front end.

I get YouTube Red with YouTube music, and for me it's more than worth it.

You're going to pay about $10 a month for music streaming anyway, and I watch YouTube so much. If I didn't have premium, I'd be wasting at least an hour per day on ads.

Re: ReVanced

#46

Post by emsy »

folkrav wrote: post #38
emsy wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are: “now for a quick word about this week’s sponsor”

I mean, that's on content creators doing live reads, and YT has nothing to do with it.

Exactly. So I’m paying 12$ a month, which is more than Netflix and still get ads. That’s actually the reason why I won’t get YT premium.

Re: ReVanced

#47

Post by convery »

hijinks wrote: post #39
Aissen wrote: post #5

Apparently Vanced was a patched YouTube app for Android, removing ads, adding a dark theme and YouTube Premium features (probably more ?). It was discontinued two weeks ago: https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/13/22975890/youtube-vanced-a...

best part of vanced was the ability to background youtube so you can listen to music with the screen being locked

BTW, Firefox on mobile lets you do that as well.

Re: ReVanced

#48

Post by shultays »

pbasista wrote: post #41
timdaub wrote: post #7

Youtube's frequency of ads has become so extreme that I've just yesterday opted to pay 11€/month for YT Premium. I had tried before disabling them with a Pihole or by blocking domains. It didn't work. Also, on a Samsung TV, you can't really install another front end.

With TVs it is especially important to look at the _software_ it comes with. If it is some locked-down piece which requires the blessing of the manufacturer to install anything on it, then I would stay away from such TVs. It seems to me that Android TVs offer at least some degree of customization because it is possible to install apps there. But the value you get from them depends on whether you can get the root acce…

Android has smarttube app which is even better (imho) compared to official youtube app, even if you pay for adfree

For starters, it supports sponsorblock which is even more adblocking. Secondly i think ux is miles better

You dont need root but you need to manually download and install it

Re: ReVanced

#49

Post by moonchrome »

timdaub wrote: post #7

Youtube's frequency of ads has become so extreme that I've just yesterday opted to pay 11€/month for YT Premium. I had tried before disabling them with a Pihole or by blocking domains. It didn't work. Also, on a Samsung TV, you can't really install another front end.

I've been using YT premium family for over a year now - I watch a lot of youtube in the background while working, it's a fair price for me - worth more than Netflix for sure since I spend more time on it.

When I occasionally see YT on other peoples TV without it I'm shocked at how many ads they get. I'm not sure what's the alternative to YT but this insane ad spam might start driving people away to alternatives.

Re: ReVanced

#50

Post by moonchrome »

majinuub wrote: post #43
zozbot234 wrote: post #16

Quoted post unavailable.

It's a subpar service not worth the price they're charging. Sure there are no ads, but they still track the hell out of you. I might as well use this free improvement of YouTube's app.

So why use it if it's not worth it ? Or is the time you spend on it not worth 11$/month ? I'd guess that if you use it less than 11/month would be worth - you probably won't mind a couple of adds when you occasionally do watch it.
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