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Re: Ask HN: What Happened to ESR?

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I've seen him post comments on other forums; he still exists. I suspect he's quiet because speaking up may get his work removed from the internet. Voicing contrary opinions has got dangerous the past couple years.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to ESR?

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I've seen him post comments on other forums; he still exists. I suspect he's quiet because speaking up may get his work removed from the internet. Voicing contrary opinions has got dangerous the past couple years.

That's a pretty disingenuous take you've got there – contrary opinions (e.g., on gun control) are one thing, but hate speech (in the form of blatant transphobia) is quite another.

ESR saw what happened to RMS and went underground. That's a good thing.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to ESR?

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post #5

I've seen him post comments on other forums; he still exists. I suspect he's quiet because speaking up may get his work removed from the internet. Voicing contrary opinions has got dangerous the past couple years.

That's a pretty disingenuous take you've got there – contrary opinions (e.g., on gun control) are one thing, but hate speech (in the form of blatant transphobia) is quite another. ESR saw what happened to RMS and went underground. That's a good thing.

...is exactly the kind of thing your parent comment was talking about.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to ESR?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a pretty disingenuous take you've got there – contrary opinions (e.g., on gun control) are one thing, but hate speech (in the form of blatant transphobia) is quite another. ESR saw what happened to RMS and went underground. That's a good thing.

...is exactly the kind of thing your parent comment was talking about.

Getting pushback when you spread hate about others isn't a "dangerous" development. It's others using their free speech to say they feel what ESR is saying is not ok.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to ESR?

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I've seen him post comments on other forums; he still exists. I suspect he's quiet because speaking up may get his work removed from the internet. Voicing contrary opinions has got dangerous the past couple years.

That's a pretty disingenuous take you've got there – contrary opinions (e.g., on gun control) are one thing, but hate speech (in the form of blatant transphobia) is quite another. ESR saw what happened to RMS and went underground. That's a good thing.

Define hate speech. Not sure about ESR but RMS definitely didn't do any.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to ESR?

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I've seen him post comments on other forums; he still exists. I suspect he's quiet because speaking up may get his work removed from the internet. Voicing contrary opinions has got dangerous the past couple years.

That's a pretty disingenuous take you've got there – contrary opinions (e.g., on gun control) are one thing, but hate speech (in the form of blatant transphobia) is quite another. ESR saw what happened to RMS and went underground. That's a good thing.

People became too trigger-happy, and there's this ever-changing baseline and being left in the wrong side of it immediately kills your career.

I'm a cis male who's also a proud feminist, but I also think that I can get myself easily cancelled if I'm not formulating my opinions very carefully.

Heck, even the things I just wrote here can be enough to trigger a lot of people!

I'm totally ok if people will argue with each other, or use their free-speech to protest the things they see wrong. But no, what's forming today is an organized "shut these people up or we'll kill your business" angry mob.

Re: Ask HN: What Happened to ESR?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a pretty disingenuous take you've got there – contrary opinions (e.g., on gun control) are one thing, but hate speech (in the form of blatant transphobia) is quite another. ESR saw what happened to RMS and went underground. That's a good thing.

People became too trigger-happy, and there's this ever-changing baseline and being left in the wrong side of it immediately kills your career. I'm a cis male who's also a proud feminist, but I also think that I can get myself easily cancelled if I'm not formulating my opinions very carefully. Heck, even the things I just wrote here can be enough to trigger a lot of people! I'm totally ok if people will argue with eac…

I think it's pretty indicative of your point that every time that I post something here, I get anxious. I use my real name here, and I'm terrified of posting an opinion that's not carefully apolitical or overexplained, and possibly losing everything.
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