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The Cube Rule (2017)

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Re: The Cube Rule (2017)

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Post by yardstick »

lalaithion wrote: post #4

The idea that we should classify food by shape is clearly erroneous. Our food classifications should be based on method of eating , not by shape! A sandwich is any food that uses a carbohydrate to protect your hands from a messier food, so that you can eat it at a card table without getting your hands dirty (a la the origin myth). Let's go through the things here: Pizza: Yes Sushi: Mostly no (the carbs don't protect…

> Pie (whole): No (good luck)

NZ/Aussie Pies: Yes

These are pies you normally eat by hand. Unlike UK and rest of world pies, they have a strong base and sides so you can hold them easily while eating.

See https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMYS1K6Z_eI

Re: The Cube Rule (2017)

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Post by oneplane »

bryanrasmussen wrote: post #42
tshaddox wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The stated requirement is that the inside is messier than the outside. I think that's uncontroversially true of an apple.

hmm, maybe, I think it must be a mistake though, the inside of just about everything is messier than the outside.

I'd say the inside of a rock is exactly as messy as the outside, but we can't eat rocks so that might be out of scope.

Re: The Cube Rule (2017)

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Post by dylan604 »

throwawaycities wrote: post #36
lalaithion wrote: post #4

The idea that we should classify food by shape is clearly erroneous. Our food classifications should be based on method of eating , not by shape! A sandwich is any food that uses a carbohydrate to protect your hands from a messier food, so that you can eat it at a card table without getting your hands dirty (a la the origin myth). Let's go through the things here: Pizza: Yes Sushi: Mostly no (the carbs don't protect…

> Our food classifications should be based on method of eating, not by shape! I agree Euclidean geometry isn’t the key to proper classification of sandwich systems. Rather we need to look towards physics and emergence. Sandwich emergence is the law or phenomenon that which occurs at sandwich scales (in space or time) but not at ingredients scales, despite the fact that a sandwich system can be viewed as a very large…

But if you fold a sandwich in half and poke a hole in it, can you traverse space time?

Re: The Cube Rule (2017)

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Post by dylan604 »

schwartzworld wrote: post #15
lalaithion wrote: post #4

The idea that we should classify food by shape is clearly erroneous. Our food classifications should be based on method of eating , not by shape! A sandwich is any food that uses a carbohydrate to protect your hands from a messier food, so that you can eat it at a card table without getting your hands dirty (a la the origin myth). Let's go through the things here: Pizza: Yes Sushi: Mostly no (the carbs don't protect…

If you rule out anything eaten with a fork, you immediately rule out open-faced sandwiches, which as far as I know, are universally referred to as open-faced sandwiches. You can pry my open-faced tuna melt on rye out of my cold dead hands. If you commit yourself to the carbohydrate as a protector from mess, is a messy sandwich still a sandwich? What about cucumber sandwiches (not messy on the inside)? You say a pie i…

>You can pry my open-faced tuna melt on rye out of my cold dead hands.

You mean pry the plate that it is on? If it were actually in your hands, you'd have a stronger case for calling it a sandwich. The mere fact it's not actually in your hands weakens your case. At least by these definitions. IANAL though ;P

Re: The Cube Rule (2017)

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Post by parksy »

I find the cube rule to be naïve in its ignorance of topological spaces. A sandwich is just a cross section of mobius toast. A wrap is just toast projected onto a cylinder. A calzone is just toast projected onto a sphere. Everything is toast! Why can't people see this!

*walks off into the distance muttering obscenities*

Re: The Cube Rule (2017)

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Post by function_seven »

parksy wrote: post #56

I find the cube rule to be naïve in its ignorance of topological spaces. A sandwich is just a cross section of mobius toast. A wrap is just toast projected onto a cylinder. A calzone is just toast projected onto a sphere. Everything is toast! Why can't people see this! *walks off into the distance muttering obscenities*

> mobius toast

This is absurd. If you drop a slice of peanut butter mobius toast on the ground, how does it land?

What sort of toaster must I buy to take mobius bread and toast it?

I don't like the implications here, and reject all projection-based arguments. Too dangerous.

Re: The Cube Rule (2017)

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Post by sparkplug94 »

I actually wrote an article about this a couple weeks ago. https://maximumeffort.substack.com/p/is-a-hot-dog-a-sandwich...

My contention is that the definition-first approach to defining sandwich is wrong, and that we should use PCA/unsupervised learning first to cluster sandwich-like objects into distinctive groups, which we can then name.

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