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Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

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Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

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If I were King of America, the tax code (and other financial instruments I can't think up on the spot) would reward companies based on the degree to which they enrich their rank and file employees.

>would reward companies based on the degree to which they enrich their rank and file employees.

How would this work? How is this different than a payroll subsidy or the EITC?

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#172

I don't understand the reasoning. If the inflation is up, why won't the employees demand more wage to cover the rising cost? It isn't like Applebee is a high-sought after career, isn't it?

Economic analysis has shown the low skill labor market has monopsony power. https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/103530462110424... This means the workers at applebees don't have much leverage to demand higher wages. Their options are accept a shitty job or don't work. This manager believes higher gas prices will force them to shift towards the "accept a shitty job" part of the spectrum.

Based on the abstract you are overstating the conclusions of that paper to a ridiculous degree.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

#173
Reading down to the later parts of the article, this sounds like a bad game of telephone from upper-management to middle-management.

Central Applebee management puts out vague message about inflation affecting costs and revenues. That hiring managers need to work harder to retain their employees by giving potential employees more flexible schedules (which may have a benefit of cutting costs: some employees may be willing to take a lower pay if they can have a different schedule).

Some middle-manager reads that statement as having to do with gas-prices making prospective employees more desperate for a job.

And the rest is history.

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Upper-management always issues vague strategic-level statements. Its the middle-managers who have to translate the vague statements into something that connects with the lower-level employees. This middle-manager colossally failed at the job.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

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I wonder what the USA would look like if minimum wage was defined as; two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. The static (both in the nominal and inflation adjusted sense) for minimum wage doesn't make sense imo. Minimum wage should be tied to some level of living (not necessarily a great living, but something ) This guy smh

>two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. My immediate reaction to this statement was.. it's insane? In my opinion it should read 'a single person able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within an hour of public transport commute.' Otherwise it sounds like you don't think anyone should be able to live anywhere reasonable without roommates?

>Otherwise it sounds like you don't think anyone should be able to live anywhere reasonable without roommates?

I think your confusing "should be able to" with "shall be able to, enforceable by law".

I don't expect that a 15 year old working his first job as a fry cook at an Arby's should be compensated enough that he can afford to live on his own. In fact, that could be dangerously disincentivizing his hard work toward his education.

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#175

If I were King of America, the tax code (and other financial instruments I can't think up on the spot) would reward companies based on the degree to which they enrich their rank and file employees.

Start off by charging them extra in taxes to cover any welfare their full-time employees qualify for. edit: with a 200% penalty for administrative fees.

>Start off by charging them extra in taxes to cover any welfare their full-time employees qualify for.

Isn't this equivalent to raising the minimum wage? I'm not sure what's the point of policies like this other for the cathartic effect/grandstanding.

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post #149

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Mass confusion. Every location has to have a custom minimum wage based on the local real estate market? How are you going to enforce that? How about people figure out how much money they need to afford the lifestyle they want and then get a job that pays that much?

The US Department of Defense already has a Cost of Living Allowance (COLA) calculated for most of the United States, large parts of Germany, and large parts of Korea. The work is already done.

That takes into account the specific set of apartments within a 1 hour drive of each individual work location in the US and automatically updates as apartment rents fluctuate?

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I wonder what the USA would look like if minimum wage was defined as; two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. The static (both in the nominal and inflation adjusted sense) for minimum wage doesn't make sense imo. Minimum wage should be tied to some level of living (not necessarily a great living, but something ) This guy smh

A universal basic income would have some advantages over a minimum wage. Minimum wage interferes with supply and demand in the labor market, which is why some economists dislike it. UBI moves the supply curve to a different place, but it allows those principles to function.

UBI won’t do anything I’m afraid, that experiment already failed during the pandemic and now we have massive inflation across all assets.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

#178

I wonder what the USA would look like if minimum wage was defined as; two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. The static (both in the nominal and inflation adjusted sense) for minimum wage doesn't make sense imo. Minimum wage should be tied to some level of living (not necessarily a great living, but something ) This guy smh

You should include traffic in it.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Seller's market is a funny way of saying they're not being held hostage for their lives.

> Seller's market is a funny way of saying they're not being held hostage for their lives. Sorry, are you saying that expecting people to work to meet their own needs is them being "held hostage for their lives"?

When they are denied the opportunity to easily obtain better positions through structural roadblocks, I would to an extent say this. At a minimum I would say that they are being exploited.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

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post #149

I wonder what the USA would look like if minimum wage was defined as; two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. The static (both in the nominal and inflation adjusted sense) for minimum wage doesn't make sense imo. Minimum wage should be tied to some level of living (not necessarily a great living, but something ) This guy smh

Mass confusion. Every location has to have a custom minimum wage based on the local real estate market? How are you going to enforce that? How about people figure out how much money they need to afford the lifestyle they want and then get a job that pays that much?

That was my initial reaction, but the more I think about it—is it really so unreasonable? Right now, we force employees to deal with the burden of ever-changing real-estate markets. Why not make employers do that?

And if it's too much of a hassle for the employer, just pay your employees substantially above the minimum.

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