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Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

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Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

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I wonder what the USA would look like if minimum wage was defined as; two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. The static (both in the nominal and inflation adjusted sense) for minimum wage doesn't make sense imo. Minimum wage should be tied to some level of living (not necessarily a great living, but something ) This guy smh

there are way more expenses besides that. it will never be enough without creating problems . Rather than putting the onus on business, just fire up the brrrrinter.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

#113

I wonder what the USA would look like if minimum wage was defined as; two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. The static (both in the nominal and inflation adjusted sense) for minimum wage doesn't make sense imo. Minimum wage should be tied to some level of living (not necessarily a great living, but something ) This guy smh

>two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. My immediate reaction to this statement was.. it's insane? In my opinion it should read 'a single person able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within an hour of public transport commute.' Otherwise it sounds like you don't think anyone should be able to live anywhere reasonable without roommates?

That was also my first reaction, but an alternate reading is that it's two people living on the (minimum) wages of one person.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

#114

What an odd letter. > Besides hiring employees in at a lower wage to decrease our labor ( when able ) make sure you have a pulse on the morale of your employees...Do things to make sure you are the employer of choice. Most importantly, have the culture and environment that will attract people. This is kind of amazing. Surely they know that the culture and environment that will attract people will be the one that pays…

> Surely they know that the culture and environment that will attract people will be the one that pays better, right? No, it's the one that offers the most perks, like foosball tables and microkitchens. Ask any successful Silicon Valley startup. /s

This is the restaurant industry so it's more on the level of like, the one that lets you take an unpaid day off every once in a while.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

#115
I just don’t understand how Mr. Pankratz’s opinion is considered acceptable in modern society. It’s 2022. Isn’t it time for humanity to evolve past this kind of thing? Why are we as a civilization still mired in a culture of exploitation and incentivizing suffering?

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

#116

I wonder what the USA would look like if minimum wage was defined as; two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. The static (both in the nominal and inflation adjusted sense) for minimum wage doesn't make sense imo. Minimum wage should be tied to some level of living (not necessarily a great living, but something ) This guy smh

>two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. My immediate reaction to this statement was.. it's insane? In my opinion it should read 'a single person able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within an hour of public transport commute.' Otherwise it sounds like you don't think anyone should be able to live anywhere reasonable without roommates?

Perhaps the assumption is of a couple living together? Also known as: shack up and produce offspring/future worker bees.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

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> Wayne Pankratz, executive director of operations for Applebee’s franchisee Apple Central LLC. > “The advantage this has for us is that it will increase application flow and has the potential to lower our average wage. How you ask? > “Most of our employee base and potential employee base live paycheck to paycheck. Any increase in gas price cuts into their disposable income. As inflation continues to climb and gas pr…

This is the economic model they operate within. It’s dangerous to paint systemic issues as bad individual actors because it gives false relief when individuals happen to appear dealt with or reformed but the structural issues and powers remain. See for example the false relief of On the Waterfront’s ending (an incredibly and subversively anti-worker film for this reason)

It's both. There's a tendency to excuse bad behavior because they "have to" due to systemic forces, but the system does not have them at gunpoint. Businesses in this system can and do survive without being ruthless and amoral right up to the edges of legality, even when they don't reap the rewards of a positive image because they decline to publicize such small integrities. You're right, however, that the system is the bigger problem.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

#118
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think thinking through the economics of the situation is one thing, but voicing it to the people you employ is a bit different.

I come at this from probably a different perspective. A close family member has been having problems hiring people recently. People want to make a minimum of $15/hr. For some small businesses this is a hard ask. But it's complicated further by the fact that many of the people they have hired have walked out when they got busy. Basically, they want to be paid to sit around and do the minimum amount of work possible. A…

I am not suggesting that the owners try to make the economics work in an impossible way that makes them go out of business, I know the uncertainty in this environment is making things very difficult. But while owners can look at aggregate data, a single worker is looking at this as a way to survive until tomorrow. They don't want to be made into a statistic, so the owners should keep that to themselves.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

#119

I don't understand the reasoning. If the inflation is up, why won't the employees demand more wage to cover the rising cost? It isn't like Applebee is a high-sought after career, isn't it?

That's your BS detector tingling, they're making up any reason to pay people less and keep more money.

Alternatively, they're projecting more people will need second jobs and take the lower wages if offered.

Re: Applebee’s exec urges using high gas prices to push lower wages, sparks walkout

#120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>two people being able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within a 1 hour drive without traffic. My immediate reaction to this statement was.. it's insane? In my opinion it should read 'a single person able to afford a 1 bedroom apartment within an hour of public transport commute.' Otherwise it sounds like you don't think anyone should be able to live anywhere reasonable without roommates?

Perhaps the assumption is of a couple living together? Also known as: shack up and produce offspring/future worker bees.

Yes, that’s what I was assuming here
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