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Post by s1artibartfast »

paskozdilar wrote: post #114
s1artibartfast wrote: post #100

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If you are located in the US, anyone can get free food to avoid starvation. Food stamps and food banks are two of the most common options. >work again / die of starvation If you get to this step, the choice is yours. What do you estimate the chance of not being able to find work at? 1%,… 0.00001%?

The graph loops at "work again / die of starvation", which by definition means I cannot afford not to work. > What do you estimate the chance of not being able to find work at? How is that relevant? My point is that I cannot afford not to work.

>My point is that I cannot afford not to work

I think you are getting the skepticism from others because most of the time these limitations are artificial and self imposed.

I certainly have felt that way when I was severely depressed and fed up with my job/life.

I felt helpless and blamed my situation, when in reality I was simply refusing to take ownership of my choices. I could quit my job, I could leave my partner, I could abandon my kids and family. I could go sleep in a park, I could buy a van and travel the country.

Why do you think you cannot afford to not work?

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Post by Majestic121 »

paskozdilar wrote: post #113
Majestic121 wrote: post #102

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The path is not realistic, there's a lot between "don't work -> run out of money", including using up savings that you had, taking up unemployment benefits, finding another kind of work or going for part time, getting help from a large number of charities... And finally, if you end up actually on the verge of starvation, as an IT person you most probably can get another job even with a gap in your resume. The whole "…

> there's a lot between "don't work -> run out of money", including using up savings that you had, taking up unemployment benefits, finding another kind of work or going for part time, getting help from a large number of charities... And finally, if you end up actually on the verge of starvation, as an IT person you most probably can get another job even with a gap in your resume. So basically: don't work -> run out…

That's not what I said.

I mentioned that one of the solution to stop a specific job is to pick a different line of work, and that even if worse comes to worse, the jump away from work is not that risky because you can come back.

But I also mentioned a lot of alternatives, including charity and government benefits, which are enough in most western countries to not starve.

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by jjtheblunt »

smordistan wrote: post #38
jjtheblunt wrote: post #9

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when i spent not quite a year working for (non AWS) Amazon, a document was leaked that such treatment was actually business plan. It was beyond obvious before the document was leaked. I contrasted the structure of several years of Apple engineering with the insanity of this business plan, which put roughly a dozen layers of non technical middle managers above our team of people with pretty hardcore technical degrees…

Only you knew this before you accepted the job offer with the dollar signs.

Oh no i did not. It was extreme bait and switch.

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Post by s1artibartfast »

drewcoo wrote: post #12

You're in trouble so by the numbers: 1. We are all struggling with mental health. Such is life. That's no shame. 2. Counselors recommend stability, thus jobs. No shock there. 3. Counselors don't recommend quitting your job with no plan. What's the real story there? I can't tell. You proceed boldly, though . . . 4. You don't have endless possibilities. In fact you just ended one of them yourself, quite publicly! 5. If…

>5. If pragmatic decisions are a burden, consider seeking help. Other people or institutions can make pragmatic decisions for you while preserving your future options.

> pragmatic: relating to matters of fact or practical affairs often to the exclusion of intellectual or artistic matters : practical as opposed to idealistic

I think the problem here is many people accept this definition of pragmatism and believe they should strive to be pragmatic in most aspects of your life.

This leads people to optimize their life for stability and income, and neglect their emotional and intellectual needs.

Sometimes what you want as an individual is out of alignment with pragmatism, and that's OK! You are allowed to be illogical, follow a whim, burn bridges, and fail.

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Post by dv_dt »

TOMDM wrote: post #94
hoseja wrote: post #78

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And that is why US is spending so much effort making sure the basic needs stay unmet.

What money is the US spending in order to worsen it's own citizens basic needs? Not needs it stubbornly refuses to subsidize, but actively making sure they remain unmet?

The defense budget increase is $70B this year, Covid spending was $45B and ran out this year for things like securing next gen vaccines and stocks of drug treatments.

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by dv_dt »

TOMDM wrote: post #103
smordistan wrote: post #98

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Universal health care for one. Were you actually asking in good faith? This gets brought up fairly often.

Universal healthcare would be a fantastic move for the US. I don't think the US spends money on making healthcare worse for people though. (Unless you want to argue that universal healthcare would be cheaper than the current standard and thus by way of opportunity cost the US is spending on worsening the healthcare of it's citizens)

The US is spending money adding more and more privatized middlemen to Medicare which is only increasing the inefficiency of the program. e.g.

https://www.levernews.com/seniors-medicare-benefits-are-bein...

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Post by bmhin »

falcolas wrote: post #111
TOMDM wrote: post #94

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What money is the US spending in order to worsen it's own citizens basic needs? Not needs it stubbornly refuses to subsidize, but actively making sure they remain unmet?

> What money is the US spending in order to worsen it's own citizens basic needs? Here's one that bugs me occasionally: Gatekeeping who is allowed to benefit from societal help. Welfare, specifically. There's so much bureaucracy around identifying who gets welfare and who does not (not to mention the identification and enforcement of the "no" people who find ways to get the money regardless) that it takes a legion of…

Even more relevant to the question: it introduces complexity that harms citizen's basic needs by putting in place knowledge inequities. You can make the tax code as complicated as you want, and the hyper wealthy will still be able to pay for people to understand it and squeeze out every drop of value because the absolute amount of money in play makes it feasible. Spending $200k to "save" $1million is a good deal. That's maybe a couple full time employees. If you wanted to save $100 instead, throwing $20 at is isn't gonna get you anything.

So all those people who can't "subcontract" their way through the complexity with specialists are left to their own devices. And they don't have the time or expertise to navigate it themselves. So the tests and checks and processes and discoverability weeds out deserving people constantly just in the hopes of preventing some "undeservings" from having access.

It'd be like writing an algorithm and every branch of logic you put in you have to do a random roll and throw an exception some percentage of the time. Each new branch compounding to filter more and more while also costing more and more to facilitate. But that execution reality is ignored so that the pure logic can be focused on in a vacuum.

It's all like the opposite of Blackstone's ratio regarding crime that "It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer". Social programs are designed such that they would often rather let ten innocent people suffer than one guilty person benefit.

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Post by gkop »

jxidjhdhdhdhfhf wrote: post #116
gkop wrote: post #23

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I usually hear “resources” used in the abstract, which was grating the first time, but I’ve gotten over. Are you hearing that literally? Would you share an example sentence?

"We need to move two more resources onto this project in order to meet our deadlines." I hear stuff like this all the time.

Yuck

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by vmception »

> On my therapist’s suggestion

Where do you all find therapists? I see that its super trendy to have one now and admit it but at the byproduct of them being pretty booked! what do?

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by travoltaj »

gkop wrote: post #23
travoltaj wrote: post #4

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It's pretty common in outsourcing companies. Even in a lot of product based companies tbh. I had to push quite a bit to get people to stop referring to SWEs as "resources"..

I usually hear “resources” used in the abstract, which was grating the first time, but I’ve gotten over. Are you hearing that literally? Would you share an example sentence?

Very literally.

"We'll get a new front-end resource soon". "We're opening two more backfills for backend resources".

"We need a front-end resource to unblock this ticket".

I have a interview on Monday which I will decline. Literally copy pasting from their meeting invite - "Request to panel-Please Take Resource Snapshot along with Any ID Proof and share the Feedback along with IRF post completion of interview."

It's gross.

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