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Re: But life had other plans

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm really happy you saved a ton of money and got what you wanted. IVF is not only mega costly, it's also a brutal roller coaster of emotions for all involved.

Unless you live in a country like The Netherlands, where the first three IVF procedures are, in fact, free. I won't disagree with you on the roller coaster of emotions, though.

Or France, where the first 4 procedures are paid for by health services. Going to the pharmacy for the ovarian stimulation drugs for my wife and seeing the one-week treatment would have cost us hundreds of euros; I sure was glad to live in such a country!

Re: But life had other plans

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Life finds a way. My wife had generalized tonic-clonic seizure for an entire year (non previous seizure history) without any cause being detected by multiple MRIs. She was taking increasing doses of Levetiracetam that somehow controlled the scope of the seizures but not avoid them completely. After a year of this, we go for another ER visit after the latest one and she ask, somehow randomly, to have a pregnancy test, it comes negative but, finally, the root cause of the seizure does appear on imagery, at that point a low grade astrocytoma. She went into major brain surgery to try to remove it and pathology confirms the low grade astrocytoma, and after a month of recovery, the oncologist recommends to start a chemo and radio therapy treatment.

As the low grade astrocytoma is treatable and with high long term survival rate, he recommends that we might extracts some ovules if we decide to have another kid in the future, as the chemo had a high chance of infertility. We had one son, and being both on our middle to late 30s, we agreed.

We go to her OG for this, and as he is performing an preliminary echography... a heart beat start blasting on the speakers, over two months of his negative blood pregnancy test, after major brain surgery, after major doses of meds of all kinds, she was, indeed, pregnant. We knew exactly when she got pregnant, it was 5 days before that ER visit. She "knew" it that day in the ER, that's why she asked for the pregnancy test (that, once again, came negative).

She decided to have the baby, no matter what the risk for her it was, no matter what risk for the baby it was. Chemo was out the question and radio treatment was a high risk and had to wait for at least another month. 6 months later we had a healthy baby, who is now a healthy 10 year old girl.

Sadly, some months after given birth to her, my wife had a relapse, the brain tumor came back, this time as GBM, a month after the girl second birthday, she passed away.

Life found a way, tho, and my wife never had any remorse of the decisions we made and she would be proud of what her sons are coming to be

Re: But life had other plans

#123
post #69

Several years ago my wife and I agreed we'd actively start making a baby and quit contraceptives. She was on the pill (progestogen-only) and we'd been using it for the better part of three years. Worked fine, she took it religiously at the same time every day. So we agreed to quit, and the next day she comes to me, awkwardly, saying "It worked!" half-jokingly. I stared at the pregnancy test, positive and unambiguous…

If the timeline of conception feels off or extraordinary, you owe it to yourself to get a DNA test. 18 years is a long time friend. Trust but verify.

Re: But life had other plans

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post #102

Amazing story, and I wish OP and his family all the best! I wonder what the effects of ovary removal will be on the embryonic development. I can imagine the ovaries produce hormones that affect the embryos development. Or is the embryo effectively hormonally isolated by the placenta?

It could be problematic in early pregnancy because the embryo relies on corpus luteum until placenta is developed (without corpus luteum the pregnancy would not continue). Afterwards it does not make a difference. I am not sure what happened in this case that the pregnancy was successful.

Re: But life had other plans

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Life finds a way. My wife had generalized tonic-clonic seizure for an entire year (non previous seizure history) without any cause being detected by multiple MRIs. She was taking increasing doses of Levetiracetam that somehow controlled the scope of the seizures but not avoid them completely. After a year of this, we go for another ER visit after the latest one and she ask, somehow randomly, to have a pregnancy test,…

I'm so sorry. Thank you for sharing your story.

Re: But life had other plans

#127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Doing X without consent is irrelevant because consequences of X are full of nonconsensual things." How is that in favor of X?

I didnt say that. You asked 'how can people not understand, that in the age of...'. I tried to explain how people cannot understand. The explanation is what people cannot understand is far out or what happens normally. (yes, i know, you might have meant this more as an rhetorical device or sarcasm, but I think it is an important question you shd really ask yourself especially since you raised it)

Sorry, I wrongly understood your answer not as an explanation of other people actions but as statement of your position in topic.

Re: But life had other plans

#128

Life finds a way. My wife had generalized tonic-clonic seizure for an entire year (non previous seizure history) without any cause being detected by multiple MRIs. She was taking increasing doses of Levetiracetam that somehow controlled the scope of the seizures but not avoid them completely. After a year of this, we go for another ER visit after the latest one and she ask, somehow randomly, to have a pregnancy test,…

I'm so sorry. Thank you for sharing your story.

Thanks. We are all as good as we can be now, Life, aside of finding ways, continues.

Re: But life had other plans

#130

I know two cases when people gave up trying to conceive, they got pregnant naturally. One was doing IVF, the other hormone therapy. Both needed a break and both got pregnant in this break. It makes you think how much stress and mind play a role.

> It makes you think how much stress and mind play a role.

Stress and the mind can also end a pregnancy sometimes...

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