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Re: I have quit my job

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Post by onion2k »

hans1729 wrote: post #14

> I imagine building solutions to problems I see in my surroundings. For some irrational reason, I feel a desire to give back to society. I think there is nothing irrational about this. Look up “purpose economy”. Grinding away your life in the interests of some company that basically just wants to achieve financial gains is not satisfying at all, we’re just normalizing it because it’s lucrative and we live in a world…

The future isn’t build by greed and hustle, but by ambition and dreams.

I'm struggling to think of a significant example of where this has been true in the past. Large scale change that someone can attribute to their own effort only seems to happen when they monetize it.

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by DeathArrow »

>I joined my last company because I was sold on an idea. >But I was unprepared for the aftershock. It was traumatizing.

I never had such problems because I joined the companies for money, not because I believed in whatever.

Re: I have quit my job

#53

Post by bigDinosaur »

WalterBright wrote: post #50
gorgoiler wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Moreover, check your tax filings next time you want to feel like you give back to society. I’m not saying you shouldn’t do anything extra-curricular, but as a wage earning citizen you are already doing a good bit of your fair share just by earning money and handing it over as tax revenue. (Where I am sure this falls down, for many people, is that their local and federal government is useless at moving the needle on a…

You're giving back to society (in a free market) by creating something they want to have. The exchanges are mutually beneficial. There's a word for a trade where the benefit goes only one way - stealing.

Taxes don't go one way though. Governments provide plenty of useful services. If your government provides no useful services then that would be stealing, and you should probably move asap.

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by awill88 »

There is a lot to unpack, but I hear you.

“Perhaps I am not suited for working in a services company with rapid transitions“

I think you’re right. You read like you’re a people pleaser. I know it because I am too. You, like me, might have a difficult time with having a dynamic yet firm grasp on our purpose in, what is more often than not, textbook Kafkaesque situations; situations we put ourselves in, and we’re accountable for, too.

Good luck in your journey of discovery. And you read like you’re also young-middle aged, also like me. So, from one to another, just remember it’s quite the privilege to publish a statement declaring in a public space that you’re “taking a break” from work. I don’t think you’re a trust fund baby, but you know, not everyone who gets you would sympathize with that statement. Maybe here, perhaps.

Maybe I’m totally wrong about the author, or maybe I’m sort of over the tone deaf articles I read on here, like we aren’t all so fucking lucky to have these software engineer jobs, the ones that pay. Is it worth your mental health? Of course not. Find a new company, I had to. Best decision I ever made.

So if I’m wrong, it’s worth the risk because I hope it drives home the point this article reeks of privilege.

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by pjerem »

hef19898 wrote: post #33
pjerem wrote: post #32

> I joined my last company because I was sold on an idea. Holly moly. I’ve been heavily burnt with the same mistake. The lesson I learned is : yes, SE don’t struggle to find work at good condition, but your project will probably be shitty and/or boring and/or deceptive and/or full of tech debt. Now I prefer to focus on the people I work with more than being sold on a project I’ll never own completely anyway.

You can be burned on people, too. All it takes is one "bad" hire far enough up the food chain and some of the "good" people to quit.

Yes, but my point was to never choose a job based on the project you'll work on or on the product of the company. You WILL be disappointed.

I guess the best way to work on a project you'll love is to be a founder. But as an employee, you'll need a looot of luck to work on an interesting project. I'm not saying that it doesn't exists, but rather that they are pretty rare, and you have very few opportunities to discover those from the outside.

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by janmo »

bambam3000 wrote: post #48
janmo wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I loved doing coding on my own. Then I started to work for a few companies. Out of all of them there was only one where I felt good. It was a public research facility, they were doing scientific work. But they hadn't the money to hire me. (I was an intern there). The rest were just BS jobs. I quit, started my own projects and I am making enough money on them to live. I cut off all the costs related to work. (Expensiv…

What sort of projects are you making money from?

I have created a bunch of websites. 4 as of today. Those are little tools, and I make money by selling ads.

3 are revenue positive and 1 is losing money.

One example: https://apewisdom.io/

Re: I have quit my job

#57

Post by black_puppydog »

onion2k wrote: post #51
hans1729 wrote: post #14

> I imagine building solutions to problems I see in my surroundings. For some irrational reason, I feel a desire to give back to society. I think there is nothing irrational about this. Look up “purpose economy”. Grinding away your life in the interests of some company that basically just wants to achieve financial gains is not satisfying at all, we’re just normalizing it because it’s lucrative and we live in a world…

The future isn’t build by greed and hustle, but by ambition and dreams. I'm struggling to think of a significant example of where this has been true in the past. Large scale change that someone can attribute to their own effort only seems to happen when they monetize it.

Linux? You could argue that red hat did the monetization there, but torvalds didn't, not before it got bigger.

Penicillin would also be one. It had to be forced on the industry because they couldn't monetize it, so you could argue that "more hustle would have helped".

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by leCaptain »

This is one of the most relatable blog post I have read in recent time.

> precedence says I will fall into inaction and misery, and achieve nothing. Complete nothing

Exactly what I am afraid of; and this fear is keeping me from quitting my job. At my current job I worked hard to deliver on a "innovative" solution, which would have removed a lot of manual work, but the project got re-prioritized when the manager was fired.

I don't find any satisfaction in the current project; earlier I used to look forward to work, now it has become a chore. I have enough savings to last me 6-8 months. But I don't know if I'll be able to bounce back in case I end up wasting all those months.

Re: I have quit my job

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Post by anonymoushn »

bigDinosaur wrote: post #53
WalterBright wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're giving back to society (in a free market) by creating something they want to have. The exchanges are mutually beneficial. There's a word for a trade where the benefit goes only one way - stealing.

Taxes don't go one way though. Governments provide plenty of useful services. If your government provides no useful services then that would be stealing, and you should probably move asap.

Even after you move, you have to pay $150,000 to buy another citizenship before you can end your relationship with the tax authorities :)
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