A challenge to affirmative action that isn’t really about affirmative action
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Re: A challenge to affirmative action that isn’t really about affirmative action
#2Affirmative action has no place at that end of the pipe. You need to be addressing the root cause of lower inputs for minority students instead of pretending that admitting them has the same rate of success that admitting higher scoring students does.
As a society we seem to think it's on everyone to make a difference at every level but unless the earliest stages have bought into that it's way less effective than it sounds. Inequality is a society wide problem that needs society wide solutions, implemented by governments to reduce these gaps at their origin.
Once we see change there it will filter through the system naturally as long as you are making these sorts of biased "personal score" systems illegal.
Re: A challenge to affirmative action that isn’t really about affirmative action
#3I have not followed this at all. Forgive my ignorance.
Wasn’t there a time when China money and students from China were overrunning Ivy League schools? Was this an attempt to finally put an end to this?
Slightly unrelated, in California, there is a problem with China money being brought in to buy homes in cash in certain school districts.
Re: A challenge to affirmative action that isn’t really about affirmative action
#4Watching my wife trying to be accepted into some programs, it appears colleges get around this by giving bonus points (literally) to things that happen to be rare for the group they're penalizing. Penalizing appears to be bad, but if you flip it, so all but certain group get this positive boost, it's, apparently, ok.
Re: A challenge to affirmative action that isn’t really about affirmative action
#5I have not followed this at all. Forgive my ignorance. Wasn’t there a time when China money and students from China were overrunning Ivy League schools? Was this an attempt to finally put an end to this? Slightly unrelated, in California, there is a problem with China money being brought in to buy homes in cash in certain school districts.
I think that is a problem in almost every western city
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Re: A challenge to affirmative action that isn’t really about affirmative action
#7We have become so accustomed to ubiquitous anti-White racism that this article can make subtly racist remarks with righteousness and carelessness.
The crux of this suit is that it is unconscionable that White children are not the most objectively, consciously, deliberately penalised race. When non-Whites underperform academically relative to Whites, there is an onus on the administration to artificially penalise Whites by adjusting admission rates in spite of this disparity; when non-Whites outperform Whites academically, it is cited here as evidence of heinous systemic racism if this is not reflected in admission rates.
In regards to the personality assessment, it is not even open to consideration that White overachievement might be merited. In fact, the disdain for Whites is so deep and native in these people that for White students to be rated highly for their character is itself evidence of manipulation or corruption. It is impossible. Utterly incompatible with their concept of Whiteness.
White students: Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
Re: A challenge to affirmative action that isn’t really about affirmative action
#8We have become so accustomed to ubiquitous anti-White racism that this article can make subtly racist remarks with righteousness and carelessness. The crux of this suit is that it is unconscionable that White children are not the most objectively, consciously, deliberately penalised race. When non-Whites underperform academically relative to Whites, there is an onus on the administration to artificially penalise Whit…
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Re: A challenge to affirmative action that isn’t really about affirmative action
#9This is another good example of double-think from 1984. The Harvard admins believe in two mutually exclusive things: (1) that the minority students are obviously as capable as everyone else, and (2) that blind-exams where backgrounds of students aren't known would reveal undesired (i.e. "racist" in the newspeak) results. The art of double-think is watching your own mind and stopping it whenever it tries to connect the two opposites with logic.
Re: A challenge to affirmative action that isn’t really about affirmative action
#10Asian American students' academic achievements are largely due to differences in culture. Without structural and societal changes, there's just no good way to lower Asian admission rates without artificially penalizing Asians as a whole.