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Re: Amazon Corretto 18 is now generally available

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OSX? Brew. https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/openjdk If you don't use brew to install your software, you probably should start doing so. Windows? Chocolately. https://community.chocolatey.org/packages/openjdk

Huh. I do use Brew. I guess I never considered that it would have a JDK package, though. No explanation as to why I never thought of it.

Remember to do the manual step that brew tells you at the end, so that the system-level "java" executable/shim gets hooked up to the JDK.

Re: Amazon Corretto 18 is now generally available

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post #47

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> That article is just fud. OpenJDK any version is free to use for whatever reason, period It literally says that in the very article you claim to be FUD. Have you even bothered to read it? Because it says everything that you did.

From HN guidelines: > Please don't comment on whether someone read an article. "Did you even read the article? It mentions that" can be shortened to "The article mentions that."

That's a great guide-line. I guess it could be generalized to "Don't refer to other commenters, only to the content of their posts".

Re: Amazon Corretto 18 is now generally available

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"Amazon Corretto is a no-cost, multiplatform, production-ready distribution of the Open Java Development Kit (OpenJDK)." I'm not sure how I never heard about this before now. Is anyone out there using this over other JDKs?

it has an official docker image - which doesnt come with even the oracle one.

https://docs.aws.amazon.com/corretto/latest/corretto-18-ug/d...

Re: Amazon Corretto 18 is now generally available

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post #19

Timely or topical, considering that O is now auditing Java. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_incl... If you're not familiar with O, or wondering why an innocuous statement like the above strikes fear into people, it's not about just licensing Java. It's about their extortionate tactics and how they try to catch you in gray areas due to ambiguous wording in their terms and conditions, and demand…

That article is just fud. OpenJDK any version is free to use for whatever reason, period. If you use OracleJDK (which is pretty identical so unless you need support, go with OpenJDK), then you previously had to pay, but Oracle recently made the last version of it free to use. I mean, it really can’t get easier and freer. It is the same model as with Red Hat linux and fedora, hell, it is even more permissive as you ca…

First, you are muddying things because it’s not a product called OracleJDK vs a product called OpenJDK, it’s “Oracle’s download called (the) JDK” vs “a different download that can only legally be called OpenJDK.” More on that below.

It’s also more confusing than you indicate because you are excluding all historical context. The “regular” JDK everyone installed up until Java 8 was the “JDK downloaded from Oracle” and the open source OpenJDK was, for lack of better words, a knock-off with poor compatibility with a lot of enterprise software but used because you couldn’t include JDK in your distro’s package manager (even though it was completely free to use) because the license wasn’t GPL compatible. So everyone that cared about vendor-approved compatibility downloaded “the JDK” from Oracle as a tarball and used that. Those that were running home software could get away with using “apt install openjdk” instead.

After Java 8, Oracle pulled a huge switcheroo and said everyone should use OpenJDK instead, and their licensed customers could use the Oracle-provided JDK instead. They didn’t put it behind a paywall or even login, and left it available for free.

So if you missed the bit about OpenJDK being officially blessed to use or you continued to just go to Oracle.com to download “the JDK” for commercial use, you were now in violation. Some say Oracle licensing is never confusing by accident and the official recommendation to switch to a previously inferior alternative wasn’t a charitable move.

If you don’t know OpenJDK is what you want, you search for “JDK” and the only entity allowed to use the plain “JDK” moniker is Oracle. Even now, just Googling for “download JDK” gives you Oracle’s JDK (that’s twenty years of PageRank and inbound links pointing to what was once a “free” download - there’s no outranking that!) as the first result.

(Given Google’s IP history with Oracle, they should show “Did you mean OpenJDK?” and include those results too :D)

Re: Amazon Corretto 18 is now generally available

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Timely or topical, considering that O is now auditing Java. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_incl... If you're not familiar with O, or wondering why an innocuous statement like the above strikes fear into people, it's not about just licensing Java. It's about their extortionate tactics and how they try to catch you in gray areas due to ambiguous wording in their terms and conditions, and demand…

I use Corretto primarily to avoid Oracle.

Re: Amazon Corretto 18 is now generally available

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post #85

Timely or topical, considering that O is now auditing Java. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_incl... If you're not familiar with O, or wondering why an innocuous statement like the above strikes fear into people, it's not about just licensing Java. It's about their extortionate tactics and how they try to catch you in gray areas due to ambiguous wording in their terms and conditions, and demand…

I use Corretto primarily to avoid Oracle.

Do you realise it’s still mostly Oracle code you’re running?

Re: Amazon Corretto 18 is now generally available

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post #85

Timely or topical, considering that O is now auditing Java. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_incl... If you're not familiar with O, or wondering why an innocuous statement like the above strikes fear into people, it's not about just licensing Java. It's about their extortionate tactics and how they try to catch you in gray areas due to ambiguous wording in their terms and conditions, and demand…

I use Corretto primarily to avoid Oracle.

While using code that is mostly written by Oracle employees.

It is incredible how people keep missing the picture about OpenJDK main contributer.

Re: Amazon Corretto 18 is now generally available

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Timely or topical, considering that O is now auditing Java. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_incl... If you're not familiar with O, or wondering why an innocuous statement like the above strikes fear into people, it's not about just licensing Java. It's about their extortionate tactics and how they try to catch you in gray areas due to ambiguous wording in their terms and conditions, and demand…

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post #88

Timely or topical, considering that O is now auditing Java. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_incl... If you're not familiar with O, or wondering why an innocuous statement like the above strikes fear into people, it's not about just licensing Java. It's about their extortionate tactics and how they try to catch you in gray areas due to ambiguous wording in their terms and conditions, and demand…

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