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Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform

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Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform

#91

What's not clear immediately is that this isn't a standalone offering. It seems to be meant for use with their hosting service. So you'd already be in the ecosystem, not trying to hook it up to like a netlify page or something on your own vm.

Using an off-site redis instance makes zero sense in the first place.

I agree, but people also used offsite, hosted memcache... so... shrug

Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform

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* Does Render work for Java (e.g. Spring Boot, Quarkus)? "All Your Apps" but I don't even see Java logo. * How does it different than new "lightweight" cloud offering like Fly.io?

Render supports building / deploying docker containers so it supports everything, including Java.

render.com and fly.io are in a similar niche of "deploy your app easily".

To me fly.io prioritized the wrong thing: deploying apps close to users. I care more about low price, ease of use and features than optimizing latency.

render.com is the best (that I know) "run a server for your app" service. I used Digital Ocean vps and then apps before.

Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform

#93

Does anyone on HN have first person experience with Render? Their offering certainly looks great on paper. I'd specifically be interested in your experience with regards to: - Stability / Uptime - How well the management UI / API / tools work - Any services you found you needed but aren't yet offered - Compliance with data protection regulations

Yes I deployed a django application to render w/ a couple of additional services: database, 2x background workers and redis. Overall the experience was positive but I feel that it tries too hard to have a "simple" UX which ended up annoying me in the end. I would use it again but I didn't "love" it. I have a feeling it will be pretty good long term. Here are some annoyances I had: - Environment previews don't always…

This is valid and helpful feedback; it also validates our priorities because we have ongoing projects to address each of these points.

Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform

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I just listened to an the Syntax podcast where it’s a pain to setup cloudflare for Render

Mind pointing me to the podcast? Cloudflare is quite easy to set up in front of Render now.

Hi, is it possible to proxy, for instance, /media/ from example.com/media/ to a S3 bucket? I run a setup using `nginx-ingress-controller` and it's possible to use it as reverse proxy to an external http server and I'm wondering if Render supports it as well. Thanks!

Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform

#95

I was under the impression that "Redis That Just Works" is usually referred to as "Redis". Redis is perhaps the easiest thing to deploy that I'm familiar with.

I guess the point is that people who haven't spent much time with Redis, would just spin up a Redis instance but won't typically set up everything that's offered (backups, monitoring, idk if there's any automatic failover or clustering out-of-the-box - this kind of stuff).

Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform

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(Render founder) Hi HN, we built our managed Redis service for people who already use Render to host their apps. You can of course use it from outside Render, but ideally you'd use the Redis internal URL (e.g. redis://red-longuniqueidhere:6379) in your code that's also running on Render.

I've been hearing fantastic things about Render. One concern I have is about the trajectory of the company-- for example there was a time when Heroku was a great bet, then it got sold and stalled. What are the most convincing points you can give for why Render won't follow a similar path?

Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform

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I moved a 1M monthly visitors project from Heroku to Render in December, and other than a few little hiccups, I have a better service (no hard-cap on memory for ex) for less than half the price. I thought I was happy with Heroku until realizing the absurd cost and lack of evolution it grew to be. I've been there for almost a decade.

Yeah, Render is great. I’ve run a company blog on a Django/Wagtail setup there for almost 2 years now with very few hiccups.

I do sometimes worry that one day they’ll shut down and I’ll be stuck moving to a crappier service…

Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform

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I moved a 1M monthly visitors project from Heroku to Render in December, and other than a few little hiccups, I have a better service (no hard-cap on memory for ex) for less than half the price. I thought I was happy with Heroku until realizing the absurd cost and lack of evolution it grew to be. I've been there for almost a decade.

Yeah, Render is great. I’ve run a company blog on a Django/Wagtail setup there for almost 2 years now with very few hiccups. I do sometimes worry that one day they’ll shut down and I’ll be stuck moving to a crappier service…

In case it helps, we announced $20M funding round in December: https://techcrunch.com/2021/11/22/render-secures-20m-series-...

Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform

#99
post #80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just listened to an the Syntax podcast where it’s a pain to setup cloudflare for Render

Mind pointing me to the podcast? Cloudflare is quite easy to set up in front of Render now.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/syntax-tasty-web-devel...

Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform

#100

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It's the easiest part of my job. It's just YAML indicating steps. Each step is a "thing to do". There's really no magic to it or terror or discomfort.

It’s loosely typed, you don’t know what parts are compatible or incompatible with one another, you can’t test without deploying to CI and seeing the results, the syntax sucks, the white space sucks, etc etc.

This is oft-cited but far overblown in practice much like the ado about whitespace in Python.

There are better things to spend time complaining about and it's not this.

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