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Does anyone on HN have first person experience with Render? Their offering certainly looks great on paper. I'd specifically be interested in your experience with regards to: - Stability / Uptime - How well the management UI / API / tools work - Any services you found you needed but aren't yet offered - Compliance with data protection regulations
The pricing absolutely blows Heroku away here across the spectrum… Heroku: $15/mo = 50Mb memory + 40 connections Render: $10/mo = 250Mb memory + 500 connections --- Heroku $750/mo = 7Gb memory + 10k connections Render $250/mo = 10Gb memory + 10k connections
Well Heroku is overpriced garbage so that's not surprising. They rely on lock in to keep you stuck paying egregious fees for services that are relatively unreliable. After migrating an entire startup infrastructure from Heroku to AWS I'm even more against Heroku given how easy it is to use something like Elastic Beanstalk to do the same thing without many of the same downsides. I've been burned by Heroku, though, so…
I moved a 1M monthly visitors project from Heroku to Render in December, and other than a few little hiccups, I have a better service (no hard-cap on memory for ex) for less than half the price. I thought I was happy with Heroku until realizing the absurd cost and lack of evolution it grew to be. I've been there for almost a decade.
I'm glad I switched when I did, because I think I'd probably have a $600+/month bill from Heroku right now.
Edit, couple more thoughts about Render:
I've been using Render's managed Redis offering for the past few months in beta, and it's been rock-solid. I'm really happy with it.
Also, I am delighted that Render's two United States datacenters are in Oregon and Ohio. My understanding is that they spread their customers across GCP, Azure, and AWS, and I could not be happier to be out of Heroku with its exposure to the tire fire that is AWS us-east-1.
The HN title is confusing and "just works" isn't mentioned in the actual article. I was going to ask if anyone ever had trouble running Redis. But that's not something the article itself asserts.
May I ask what the benefit of this is vs spinning up your own Redis server? An equivalent solution would be to spin up a $5 droplet on DO, do basic due diligence wrt security (lock down ssh, firewall, etc.) and you end up with more memory, more connections, for less money. I realize I'm a Luddite, in the field of DevOps. Is it just the benefit of not needing to maintain the server?
Now that said there's definitely a cultural belief in startups that you should outsource everything you can. It works for some people, but I've seen it kill others because they were sending all of their revenue to their vendors. The outsource model always suffers as you scale up.
The only killer feature missing from Render is a distributing the same app across regions for minimal latency. Heroku only pitifully support 2 regions. I want the choice for my app to be global on day one with no devops required. Just two clicks and it's available on multiple regions.
I was under the impression that "Redis That Just Works" is usually referred to as "Redis". Redis is perhaps the easiest thing to deploy that I'm familiar with.
I was under the impression that "Redis That Just Works" is usually referred to as "Redis". Redis is perhaps the easiest thing to deploy that I'm familiar with.
What's not clear immediately is that this isn't a standalone offering. It seems to be meant for use with their hosting service. So you'd already be in the ecosystem, not trying to hook it up to like a netlify page or something on your own vm.
Does anyone on HN have first person experience with Render? Their offering certainly looks great on paper. I'd specifically be interested in your experience with regards to: - Stability / Uptime - How well the management UI / API / tools work - Any services you found you needed but aren't yet offered - Compliance with data protection regulations
I just listened to an the Syntax podcast where it’s a pain to setup cloudflare for Render