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Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

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Post by buggythebug »

silicon2401 wrote: post #37
buggythebug wrote: post #3

What you're saying is just plain wrong. You're not a super old person stuck in a chair that needs to see things from the inside. Go outside. If you are young, you should view the place you are living as your basecamp to sleep so you can go out and explore your world - not look at it through a window. Plus basement dwellings tend to be cheaper in which you can use the extra money you save for exploring.

This is a hilarious example of how people push their own worldviews and personalities. > You're not a super old person stuck in a chair that needs to see things from the inside. Go outside. You may not enjoy windows, but I do, and lots of other people do as well. I would prefer my home to not be a solid box. I go outside, but sometimes I come home, and when I do I like windows. > If you are young, you should Unless y…

> This is a hilarious example of how people push their own worldviews and personalities.

No, this is just how people should live.

> Unless you're basing your next words on what the reader's personal interests are, this would be better phrased as "when I was young, I liked to [...]". Your lifestyle goals are obviously different from mine and so your advice has little relevance to my life.

So then this post is moot so crap on the OP rather than my post

> Again you take for granted that everyone cares about exploring as much as you do.

Well if they want to be stuck inside like a hermit then don't complain about a lack of sunlight - go outside.

> This would have been better phrased as "What you're saying is not how I live my life". Wouldn't it be more helpful to first learn more about what the reader actually wants, instead of just assuming everyone is the same as you? If the OP is unhappy about living in basements, they probably won't benefit from being told "you're wrong" lol. I'm happiest when I have a comfortable home with big windows and a great view, and when I spend almost all of my waking life inside that home. The pandemic lockdowns were the best times of my life because I didn't have to see people or leave my home. There are people out there who enjoy different lifestyles than you, and conversations would probably be more effective if we started with that in mind.

Nope, was phrased correctly. Going outside is not a lifestyle - it's what normal people do.

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

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Post by silicon2401 »

buggythebug wrote: post #41
silicon2401 wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is a hilarious example of how people push their own worldviews and personalities. > You're not a super old person stuck in a chair that needs to see things from the inside. Go outside. You may not enjoy windows, but I do, and lots of other people do as well. I would prefer my home to not be a solid box. I go outside, but sometimes I come home, and when I do I like windows. > If you are young, you should Unless y…

> This is a hilarious example of how people push their own worldviews and personalities. No, this is just how people should live. > Unless you're basing your next words on what the reader's personal interests are, this would be better phrased as "when I was young, I liked to [...]". Your lifestyle goals are obviously different from mine and so your advice has little relevance to my life. So then this post is moot so…

> No, this is just how people should live

You can say that all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it's an opinion. I think people should live far apart from each other and definitely not in cities, but saying that won't do anything to change your opinion either.

> Well if they want to be stuck inside like a hermit then don't complain about a lack of sunlight - go outside.

You seem incredibly upset that some people enjoy being indoors. You also write as if windows and doors don't exist. Enjoying the indoors and an outside view at the same time is fundamental to human nature, as shown by thousands of years of windows. If anything, there is more evidence to say that your opinion is wrong, that humans shouldn't live with windows.

> Going outside is not a lifestyle - it's what normal people do.

Normal people also go back indoors lol, and normal people enjoy windows when they're inside. I can't begin to imagine why you take it so personally that somebody would dare to want an apartment with windows. I won't be responding further but I hope you enjoy your chosen way of life

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

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Post by buggythebug »

silicon2401 wrote: post #42
buggythebug wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This is a hilarious example of how people push their own worldviews and personalities. No, this is just how people should live. > Unless you're basing your next words on what the reader's personal interests are, this would be better phrased as "when I was young, I liked to [...]". Your lifestyle goals are obviously different from mine and so your advice has little relevance to my life. So then this post is moot so…

> No, this is just how people should live You can say that all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it's an opinion. I think people should live far apart from each other and definitely not in cities, but saying that won't do anything to change your opinion either. > Well if they want to be stuck inside like a hermit then don't complain about a lack of sunlight - go outside. You seem incredibly upset that som…

> You can say that all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it's an opinion. I think people should live far apart from each other and definitely not in cities, but saying that won't do anything to change your opinion either.

Everyone has opinions, but OP's is in the minority and some opinions are less valid than others - you can't hide behind an opinion.

> You seem incredibly upset that some people enjoy being indoors. You also write as if windows and doors don't exist. Enjoying the indoors and an outside view at the same time is fundamental to human nature, as shown by thousands of years of windows. If anything, there is more evidence to say that your opinion is wrong, that humans shouldn't live with windows.

I enjoy being indoors just as much as outdoors - doesn't mean I'm a hermit. Windows are fine. But who cares if you don't have them when you're young and should be grinding.

> Normal people also go back indoors lol, and normal people enjoy windows when they're inside. I can't begin to imagine why you take it so personally that somebody would dare to want an apartment with windows. I won't be responding further but I hope you enjoy your chosen way of life

They do! I'm not taking it personally. You and OP seem to think living in a basement is not ok. You're young - life is not perfect - get out of your house.

My chosen way of life is the right way.

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

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Post by Fire-Dragon-DoL »

That is a bit one sided.

Living in a basement allowed me to live in a substantially larger place than a studio apartment, 50m from a big park with playground, 100m from the main public transit of the city (train) and save so much in rent that I can now afford to buy. All of this while happy, now have two kids (still in the basement)

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

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Post by Markoff »

I'd more worry about humidity/mold problems and mobile network signal issues. At least that was my only experience with living in basement for few weeks, once in a life was enough. And I had actually big full sized 2m glass door with empty space in front of them, it was just under the regular surface level, but still technically basement.
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