Redis in docker, Kubernetes is almost zero config as it is. For small stuff anyway. For big stuff, would it not be a massive drag not having it proximal to your app serve we a?
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Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform
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Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform
#12What's not clear immediately is that this isn't a standalone offering. It seems to be meant for use with their hosting service. So you'd already be in the ecosystem, not trying to hook it up to like a netlify page or something on your own vm.
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#13I'm guessing the appeal of such services is "hassle-free" deployment? Because I really don't get it. My DigitalOcean instance is 2 GB RAM, 30 GB disk. With backups it costs $11.40/month. And yes, I'm free to run whatever on it, be it Postgres or Redis or... To have an equivalent on Render would be 3-4 times more expensive?
With Platform as a Service (PaaS) you are paying a premium for isolating the problem to an individual component which is down. You can either spend a few hours going through the logs or have PaaS vendor let you know that problem is not at their end so that you can spend time isolating the issue.
Our you can pay the premium and have that vendor lie to you. Some of us have pretty bed experiences with cloud support teams.
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#14Not sure what products they are offering, but redis changed the licenses for certain modules to prevent competition
https://techcrunch.com/2019/02/21/redis-labs-changes-its-ope...
Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform
#15Please rename to: "Hosted Redis"
Right now it sounds as if it's a redis competitor, aka clickbait
Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform
#16The pricing absolutely blows Heroku away here across the spectrum… Heroku: $15/mo = 50Mb memory + 40 connections Render: $10/mo = 250Mb memory + 500 connections --- Heroku $750/mo = 7Gb memory + 10k connections Render $250/mo = 10Gb memory + 10k connections
Well Heroku is overpriced garbage so that's not surprising. They rely on lock in to keep you stuck paying egregious fees for services that are relatively unreliable.
After migrating an entire startup infrastructure from Heroku to AWS I'm even more against Heroku given how easy it is to use something like Elastic Beanstalk to do the same thing without many of the same downsides.
I've been burned by Heroku, though, so I have a strong negative opinion.
Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform
#17Please rename to: "Hosted Redis" Right now it sounds as if it's a redis competitor, aka clickbait
Well, Redis for some reason tried to position itself as a Reddit plagiarism attempt too. So it's poetic.
Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform
#18(Render founder) Hi HN, we built our managed Redis service for people who already use Render to host their apps. You can of course use it from outside Render, but ideally you'd use the Redis internal URL (e.g. redis://red-longuniqueidhere:6379) in your code that's also running on Render.
Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform
#19The pricing absolutely blows Heroku away here across the spectrum… Heroku: $15/mo = 50Mb memory + 40 connections Render: $10/mo = 250Mb memory + 500 connections --- Heroku $750/mo = 7Gb memory + 10k connections Render $250/mo = 10Gb memory + 10k connections
Well Heroku is overpriced garbage so that's not surprising. They rely on lock in to keep you stuck paying egregious fees for services that are relatively unreliable. After migrating an entire startup infrastructure from Heroku to AWS I'm even more against Heroku given how easy it is to use something like Elastic Beanstalk to do the same thing without many of the same downsides. I've been burned by Heroku, though, so…
It is sad to see how Heroku has been totally abandoned by Salesforce. I mention as it's probably Render's closest competitor.
Re: Render: a Zero DevOps Cloud Platform
#20In what way is it different than other hosted redis solutions? Also, the sizing suggests it's a single replica, IIRC most other hosted redis platform support clusters.