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Re: Amazon Corretto 18 is now generally available

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Pretty awesome to watch how languages get faster and faster over time through engine updates.

JS/V8 is particularly impressive. I wonder how far we are from the theoretical performance limit on the software side?

I would guess we will eventually see deprecations of warts to improve engine performance further. Or integrated type system etc.

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#22

It's not clear to me, why does the world needs another JDK? What does this offer that currently isn't out there?

An alternative to the standard JDK that's supported by Oracle. Generally, the less stuff Oracle controls, the better (not to say Amazon having control is inherently better, but imo, it's better than Oracle)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's my preferred one, the 'mystery meat' scandal that hit adoptopenjdk showed me the importance of accountability. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=19955958

The link you provided talk about an issue with Docker's openjdk image which has nothing to do with adoptopenjdk (now Adoptium Temurin).

You are correct, the Azul guy (who reported it) goes into considerable detail here: https://github.com/docker-library/openjdk/issues/320#

NEVERTHELESS, software supply chain is important. Whatever JVM one chooses should have a good answer to how they handle it.

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post #23

It's not clear to me, why does the world needs another JDK? What does this offer that currently isn't out there?

It's not another JDK, its Amazon build of the OpenJDK, like Azul has been doing for a few years.

Yes, perhaps better thought of as a distribution or packaging. Somewhat analogous to linux distributions.

I thought Azul was a bit more customised around the gc, so not quite the same JVM?

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post #16

Timely or topical, considering that O is now auditing Java. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_incl... If you're not familiar with O, or wondering why an innocuous statement like the above strikes fear into people, it's not about just licensing Java. It's about their extortionate tactics and how they try to catch you in gray areas due to ambiguous wording in their terms and conditions, and demand…

Friendly reminder that if you install virtualbox with guest services at work, Oracle lawyers will eventually demand a huge sum from your company.

I consider the reminder friendly, but definitely not what it implies... Any source on this? By guest services, you mean the additional "click this to install some custom stuff in the running VM so it works better" step? And if so, just after doing that, or VirtualBox in general?

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post #19

Timely or topical, considering that O is now auditing Java. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_incl... If you're not familiar with O, or wondering why an innocuous statement like the above strikes fear into people, it's not about just licensing Java. It's about their extortionate tactics and how they try to catch you in gray areas due to ambiguous wording in their terms and conditions, and demand…

That article is just fud. OpenJDK any version is free to use for whatever reason, period. If you use OracleJDK (which is pretty identical so unless you need support, go with OpenJDK), then you previously had to pay, but Oracle recently made the last version of it free to use. I mean, it really can’t get easier and freer. It is the same model as with Red Hat linux and fedora, hell, it is even more permissive as you ca…

When a company Licensing is so complicated, that there are whole companies whose business case, is to help you negotiate with Oracle, it should make for pause and caution:

"Oracle Java Release 17 Is it Free Again?"

https://www.softwareone.com/en/blog/all-articles/2021/09/20/...

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post #16

Timely or topical, considering that O is now auditing Java. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_incl... If you're not familiar with O, or wondering why an innocuous statement like the above strikes fear into people, it's not about just licensing Java. It's about their extortionate tactics and how they try to catch you in gray areas due to ambiguous wording in their terms and conditions, and demand…

Friendly reminder that if you install virtualbox with guest services at work, Oracle lawyers will eventually demand a huge sum from your company.

I did a tiny amount of searching to verify this but came up empty handed. Guest additions (what I think you meant) is GPLv2, so it should be free for use.

Re: Amazon Corretto 18 is now generally available

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post #16

Timely or topical, considering that O is now auditing Java. https://www.theregister.com/2022/03/22/oracle_starts_to_incl... If you're not familiar with O, or wondering why an innocuous statement like the above strikes fear into people, it's not about just licensing Java. It's about their extortionate tactics and how they try to catch you in gray areas due to ambiguous wording in their terms and conditions, and demand…

Friendly reminder that if you install virtualbox with guest services at work, Oracle lawyers will eventually demand a huge sum from your company.

Have run into this multiple times with them in multiple companies.

For those asking, it's about the "VitualBox 6.1.32 Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack" - it's free to install but phones home and they reach out after a year or two of use and attempt to coerce you into paying for a license. Just ensure everyone has uninstalled it and tell them to go pound sand.

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