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Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

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Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

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post #10

While I'm inclined to agree - I wonder why you are still in a basement if you're renting? Surely the benefit of renting is the ability to quickly change living environment as you want, rather than stay somewhere you're unhappy for ten years?

Not OP, but a few things come to mind:

1) Possibly to decrease coats of living?

2) Location might not have much better to offer? (Dunno how likely?)

3) Social situation (family, friends, niche industry?)

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

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post #10

While I'm inclined to agree - I wonder why you are still in a basement if you're renting? Surely the benefit of renting is the ability to quickly change living environment as you want, rather than stay somewhere you're unhappy for ten years?

Depending on the zoning laws it might be legal for the landlord to rent the house to two families, so they might only be renting the (finished) basement with limited rights to using amenities like the garage and kitchen.

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

#23
post #10

While I'm inclined to agree - I wonder why you are still in a basement if you're renting? Surely the benefit of renting is the ability to quickly change living environment as you want, rather than stay somewhere you're unhappy for ten years?

This sort of assumes one lives someplace where rents are cheap. If you rented that basement apartment in the first place, it's a pretty good sign you were in need of somewhere extremely cheap... And in markets like NYC where you need a minimum of 4x the monthly rent just to move in, it can be hard to climb out of the basement (both metaphorically and literally)

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

#24
I agree with the general sentiment of this & wish I had a better view. My office is currently in my basement (only practical place in our house for it). I probably spend around 60% of my working hours there, the other 40% I'm on my laptop in various locations around the house to keep it fresh.

One thing I've found to help is growing some plants indoors. I have a few grow lights on 12h timers that keep me a little grounded to the rhythm of the Earth. However nothing beats the energy you get from a natural view.

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

#25

What you're saying is just plain wrong. You're not a super old person stuck in a chair that needs to see things from the inside. Go outside. If you are young, you should view the place you are living as your basecamp to sleep so you can go out and explore your world - not look at it through a window. Plus basement dwellings tend to be cheaper in which you can use the extra money you save for exploring.

Nothing got me out of my apartment like living in a crappy place.

Though I can imagine that it can wear you down along with other things that may be going on in your life, at which point perhaps it's time to change things up in a big way, like moving, to reset your disposition and find new experiences.

10 years in a place you despise seems like one of those points.

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

#27
post #11

Some people have no choice. In NYC, basement apartments are the only units you can find for under $1000/month. If you're an immigrant new to the US, if you're trying to find your footing after a tragedy, or if you're a new graduate looking for your first job after school-- it works as a (hopefully temporary) solution. Lived in a basement apartment as a child for a decade. I came out fine. But yes, would certainly not…

Why is moving out of that city not a choice?

It's not a realistic option for many living paycheck to paycheck. Hunting for a job in other cities is potentially expensive when in person interviews are required - most employers will not pay travel costs (let alone relocation expenses), and there's the opportunity cost of hours not worked at a current job. Many employers engage in resume discrimination where resumes with anything but local phone numbers or addresses get thrown out. Even if you do land a gig elsewhere, the costs of locating a new place to live, of moving, of potentially breaking a lease...are all above what many in the working class can reasonably afford. And all of the above becomes more complicated if partners and/or children are involved.

Also, people don't exist in a vaccuum. Many are grounded in certain places because of familial obligations. Others - particularly recent immigrants in places like NYC - are tied to a local ethnic or expatriate community that they rely on for social and emotional support.

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

#28
I have rented a basement for 10 years.

This is the problem. Unless you have absolutely no other options, don't rent one place for a decade. Try to move onwards. Rent a basement at the start, but as you progress in your career rent an apartment with a view, a whole house, maybe buy somewhere of your own eventually.

Don't settle until you're where you want to be. Accepting something that you're not happy with is what leaves scars. This applies to much more than just the place you call home.

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

#29
That's a good one. I have another one:

Never live in a place where there's a lot of house renewals going on. I lived in Lisbon, Portugal for a while and still after a few years the sound of a jackhammer in the distance still stresses me out. I had construction workers drilling through the dinning room ceiling by mistake, or removing the the ceiling of the downstairs appartment with a hammer just below me. An all that pain only to see your rentals not being renewed because of the ongoing gentrification process.

Re: Ask HN: Do not rent and live in basements

#30
Even when living above-ground, pay attention to how much natural light you will receive. I spent years living in apartments with windows facing North, and it was depressingly cold and dark even in sunny California. When I finally moved somewhere with windows facing South, the difference was astounding. Even better if you can get a corner unit with windows on the south and east sides. Of course it will take longer to find housing with ample natural light, and you can expect to pay a premium for it, but I think it is worth it.

That being said, I prefer to have my office on the North side of a building, as there is less glare to deal with on my monitor, and the temperature is more consistent.

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