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Covid and the Heart: It Spares No One – Johns Hopkins
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Re: Covid and the Heart: It Spares No One – Johns Hopkins
#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're referring to cases of myocarditis caused by vaccination itself, the cases are negligible: 2.3 per 100,000 [1]. Compare that with the apparent near-certainty of heart damage (and likely brain damage) if you contract COVID while being unvaccinated, and the decision to not get vaccinated is not just selfish but self-destructive. [1] https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737
Heart damage from Covid is nothing like a "near-certainty". The vast majority don't experience it, upwards of 95% depending on the study. Framing this as "near-certainty" or "spares no one" is irresponsible fear-mongering.
This claim really requires a citation of some sort. In particular,
> don't experience it
is reckless, given that we know the vast majority of heart disease is undiagnosed until there are symptoms.
Re: Covid and the Heart: It Spares No One – Johns Hopkins
#83There was a lot of information coming out of college athletics early on consistent with the research in this article. Young, healthy athletes that were asymptomatic showed signs of inflammation in the heart. Since then there were follow up studies which were split in their findings. The early studies used MRI testing and suggested “high-risk” of heart damage/myocarditis in the athletes. Follow up studies tended not t…
If there's been such heart damage to athletes that caught it, how come they all are invariably coming back to the same exact performance they had previously? Is there such a thing as damage to the heart that has no effect on performance, particularly the incredibly demanding kinds of performances that sports like professional basketball require?
To your second question, yes, heart inflammation doesn’t mean they can’t participate, participate at a high level, or that the athlete even notices any issue. It means they have heart inflammation which carries associated risks both long term and acute. If you are looking for anecdotal evidence, there are plenty of athletes that talk about post covid struggles that include a range of issues impacting performance (i.e. reduced cardio, more labored breathing, brain fog).
Re: Covid and the Heart: It Spares No One – Johns Hopkins
#84Looking at the title, I am sad to see the discourse in research sink to this level over the last few years (well, I think so – perhaps it was already at this level before?). Honestly, it's hard to blame the author(s) for using such a clickbait title when Governments across the world have done precisely the same thing by trivializing the effects of a largely unknown disease, banning public health measures, or declarin…
The experiences of countries that didn't lock down proves that the "restrictions" were ineffective at best and more and more it looks like they caused and are continuing to cause more harm. Lockdowns in cities was particularly dumb. Let's lock everyone indoor, in apartment buildings with shared air systems - yup, brilliant strategy for a highly contagious respiratory virus. If the weather is nice enough for people to…
The lockdowns were not ineffective. They were only less effective because of people who cried "muh freedumbs". Masks have repeatedly shown to be effective, especially the N95/KN95 variety. Vaccines were shown to be very effective, if not 100% preventative. Big Tech is not a publisher and expects you to be skeptical of things you read that don't come from mainstream sources. Mainstream sources, other than Fox, tend to have some bias, but almost always contain facts they are based on. Fox however regularly breaks that trust between media and viewers/readers and has been called out over and over.
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There are tens of thousands of stories that go out every day without errors. Pulling 8 or 10 stories out of those thousands upon thousands of stories that go out on legit news sources being incorrect or slipping in way too much does not bring into question the other 99.99% legit stories. You aren't making much sense to me here. Almost a million people have died above and beyond what normally would not have died in the USA due to Covid-19. I don't know about you, but that makes me extremely sad with the knowledge that 70-80% of those deaths could have been prevented with vaccines, masking, and observing proper protocols. It breaks my fucking heart to be honest, and I didn't even lose anyone close to me personally.
Re: Covid and the Heart: It Spares No One – Johns Hopkins
#85Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you're referring to cases of myocarditis caused by vaccination itself, the cases are negligible: 2.3 per 100,000 [1]. Compare that with the apparent near-certainty of heart damage (and likely brain damage) if you contract COVID while being unvaccinated, and the decision to not get vaccinated is not just selfish but self-destructive. [1] https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2110737
Please knock it off with the "selfish" nonsense. Even if everyone got vaccinated, the virus would still get passed around. Then, when the next variant inevitably arises, and everyone's immunity wears off, we're back at square one. The anti-anti-vax crowd is just a walking meme at this point.
> The anti-anti-vax crowd is just a walking meme at this point.
Not more than the actual anti-vax crowd.
Re: Covid and the Heart: It Spares No One – Johns Hopkins
#86My friend died 2 days ago. Heart attack at 31 years old. He had some unhealthy eating habits, but nothing out of the ordinary and he was at most slightly overweight. I wouldn't be surprised if him having covid a couple months ago was a major factor in his death.
Very possible, there was a teen girl who was recovering from Covid around here a month ago that just hemorrhaged to death. Cardiovascular damage continues to be no joke.
Re: Covid and the Heart: It Spares No One – Johns Hopkins
#87Don’t obsess over this. It’ll distract you and stress you out, which comes with its own health risks. None of us get out alive anyway. Go live as healthy a life as you can, find happiness, and help others when the opportunity presents.
You don't need to obsess over this, but you do need to remember that there has been, and continues to be a large pro-COVID faction that insists that getting everyone sick with it will be no big deal, because it only kills of people in . They were, of course, speaking from a position of ignorance of long-term side effects, because the data wasn't yet in. It's been two years, and in many ways, the data is still not in…
Most are willing to live life to the fullest with negligible risks. Others who want to live life locked down and living in a plastic bubble, feel free to do so. If you think Covid can be eradicated with zero-covid policies, look at how China is faring [1]. Live and let live.
[1] https://www.reuters.com/world/china/refuse-quarantine-frustr...
Re: Covid and the Heart: It Spares No One – Johns Hopkins
#88A more accurate headline would be "it spares 93%–97% of people," though the interview meticulously omitted almost all quantifiable information. The hazard ratios in the paper smitty1110 cited https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-022-01689-3?s=08 are mostly 1.49–1.85, which as I understand it means that people with covid were 1½–2 times as likely to experience the condition, pericarditis or stroke or whatever, than…
False. > We went into it thinking that [the risk] was going to be most pronounced and evident in people who smoked a lot or had diabetes, heart disease, kidney disease, or some [other] risk factors. What we found is that even in people who did not have any heart problems start with, were athletic, did not have a high BMI, were not obese, did not smoke, did not have kidney disease or diabetes—even in people who were p…
Is "False." the new "Wrong."?
Re: Covid and the Heart: It Spares No One – Johns Hopkins
#89Earlier quoted context omitted.
False. > We went into it thinking that [the risk] was going to be most pronounced and evident in people who smoked a lot or had diabetes, heart disease, kidney disease, or some [other] risk factors. What we found is that even in people who did not have any heart problems start with, were athletic, did not have a high BMI, were not obese, did not smoke, did not have kidney disease or diabetes—even in people who were p…
> They found that even mild COVID damaged otherwise healthy people's hearts so badly that their risk for heart problems are now comparable to those of obese people. > In other words, it does damage your heart. That damage might result in a heart attack, reflected in the increased hazard ratio. This seems an inaccurate reading of what's in the study. They did not find that all people who had COVID had heart damage, wh…
How did they know they were previously healthy? Did they have pre-infection health screens?
Re: Covid and the Heart: It Spares No One – Johns Hopkins
#90My friend died 2 days ago. Heart attack at 31 years old. He had some unhealthy eating habits, but nothing out of the ordinary and he was at most slightly overweight. I wouldn't be surprised if him having covid a couple months ago was a major factor in his death.
I'm very sorry about your friend. That's incredible - 31 years old. How heart-breaking it must be.