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If this exact same phone had come out with the name "iPhone 5", and maybe a different case, people would be praising it to the heavens. People are weird.
I don't agree with you on that one. I think people would have been more upset, as they expect a number increase = new design.
Why the iPhone 5 never arrived
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Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived
#42Is anyone really shocked? Here, I'll write out the tech media "design pattern" for a new Apple product. 1. Hype up killer pie-in-the-sky feature that makes zero economic sense for Apple (see: retina iPad, 4G iPhone with larger screen). Traffic spikes. 2. As launch approaches, use "inside sources" to mock up designs (Macrumors's "we think the 5 will look like this"). Report on supply chain behavior, leaked case design…
I think you misspelled 'amirite'. Also, yesterday's APPL fall was like 6%. Right on all remaining points.
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You know, I honestly don't know why people are saying that they're disappointed. For me, this is the first iPhone since the original that gave me a real 'Wow, the future has just arrived' moment. For the original phone it was the Minority Report UI. This time around it's the Star Trek computer that talks to you. When Apple start running TV ads showing off Siri, the average consumer is going to love it.
How many people ever tried using the Voice Control in the iPhone 4? Siri is one of those features (awesome technological achievement notwithstanding) that's great to demo but largely irrelevant (or even unknown) to most users. It's this generation's Carousel view.
It works about half the time.
"Play Machine Gun Fellatio"
*"BING! Playing songs by Marvin Gaye"
"ehhh, good enough"
It works slightly better if I put on a fake American accent.
Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived
#44Is anyone really shocked? Here, I'll write out the tech media "design pattern" for a new Apple product. 1. Hype up killer pie-in-the-sky feature that makes zero economic sense for Apple (see: retina iPad, 4G iPhone with larger screen). Traffic spikes. 2. As launch approaches, use "inside sources" to mock up designs (Macrumors's "we think the 5 will look like this"). Report on supply chain behavior, leaked case design…
I think you misspelled 'amirite'. Also, yesterday's APPL fall was like 6%. Right on all remaining points.
Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived
#45It wasn't mandatory for an "iPhone 5" to have LTE in the first place. Just because it wouldn't have had LTE ,doesn't mean they couldn't have made an "iPhone 5".
And if it's all about economics, then I guess it makes even more sense to keep the same design for 3, or even 4 years, no? That's probably what would happen if the iPhone had no competition, seeing how even with strong competition from Android, they still don't seem to care about using the same phone over and over again.
What's funny is that when HTC releases a more "refined" design (but still basically the same), the media is all "oh, same old design from HTC". But when Apple does it, "well, they are just refining a work of art!" or "It's the inside that counts!"
Yeah right. Most people buy phones for 3 main reasons:
1) design - and they don't want the same old one over and over again. It's no coincidence the iPhone 3GS was the most disappointing iPhone launch so far, too - until now that is
2) price - people will buy the phone they can afford
3) value - the most bang for the buck
Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived
#46some interesting points: * More than 90% of Americans still don’t own an iPhone. Heck, two-thirds of Americans still don’t own a smartphone. So the iPhone 4 design isn’t “old” to them. * http://www.splatf.com/2011/10/iphone-4s/
I agree with everything the article says. IMHO, the biggest announcement from yesterday is the $99 iPhone4. I think consumers when given the choice between a cheaper Android (not the flagship ones at $200+) handsets or an iPhone4 will pick the iPhone4.
Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived
#47Is anyone really shocked? Here, I'll write out the tech media "design pattern" for a new Apple product. 1. Hype up killer pie-in-the-sky feature that makes zero economic sense for Apple (see: retina iPad, 4G iPhone with larger screen). Traffic spikes. 2. As launch approaches, use "inside sources" to mock up designs (Macrumors's "we think the 5 will look like this"). Report on supply chain behavior, leaked case design…
Yup. MacRumors really did a disservice to everyone with that mock up stuff. I get what the reasoning was, but that doesn't make it any better. Sometimes the rumor sites just flat out get it wrong, and MacRumors I think is responsible for a lot of over-zealous reporting. That said, the stock lost some ground, but the thing with Apple's stock, it always goes up before and after their quarterly earnings calls. They cont…
But at the time, the entire case industry was moving forward with producing cases. They weren't just prototypes, you could actually buy the "iPhone 5" cases. It would have been impossible not to report on the cases and what they represent.
I believe and have been told that the iPhone 5 design was real -- just not ready.
As for mockups. Both sides tend to point and say, oh - look what they got wrong. or look what they got right.
Here's our assistant rendition: http://www.macrumors.com/2011/09/30/a-look-at-apples-assista... which was pretty spot on.
But the thing about rumors is it's like a statistical distribution. You can't take any one rumor and say "oh, this is it". Eventually, by the time the event happens, the rumors settle around something that frequently is very close to the truth. See, our Rumor Roundup right before the event for the final conclusion from months of rumors: http://www.macrumors.com/2011/10/03/lets-talk-iphone-rumor-r...
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Most of these rumors are started by hedge funds with short positions in Apple. 1) Spread rumors about a product 2) Watch stock price go up 3) Wait for the actual product announcement 4) Short sale 5) Profit$$$ it happens everyday.
Any sources for this?
Hedge Funds, Bloggers and the Origin of Apple Rumors http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2011/03/30/about-that-iphone-5-d...
Samsung employee caught leaking information to hedge fund manager before iPad launch http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-14/ex-samsung-worker-s...
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I agree with everything the article says. IMHO, the biggest announcement from yesterday is the $99 iPhone4. I think consumers when given the choice between a cheaper Android (not the flagship ones at $200+) handsets or an iPhone4 will pick the iPhone4.
On a two-year contract, the difference between a $199 iPhone and a $99 iPhone is, what, five percent?
Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived
#50Plenty of people will buy something called a "4" when the state of the art is a "4S" -- there's no embarrassment there: "Oh, my discount phone is almost as good; it's just missing an S. And it's not like my friends will be able to tell that I'm using last year's model. It looks the same."
But if the latest model is called the "5", then suddenly there's a stigma to having the 4. You're stuck one full number behind the Joneses. And everybody knows, because you're still using the phone with the unfashionable flat back while everyone else has the slick new teardrop design that's all the rage.