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Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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Saw the common reaction to the iPhone 5 disappointment summarised loosely as: "If this new product looks like the last one, how will people tell that I'm superior to them?"

You can talk to your phone. 8*D

I guess Apple pulled Siri out of the appstore yesterday.

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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post #12

Saw the common reaction to the iPhone 5 disappointment summarised loosely as: "If this new product looks like the last one, how will people tell that I'm superior to them?"

If this exact same phone had come out with the name "iPhone 5", and maybe a different case, people would be praising it to the heavens. People are weird.

I don't agree with you on that one. I think people would have been more upset, as they expect a number increase = new design.

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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Is anyone really shocked? Here, I'll write out the tech media "design pattern" for a new Apple product. 1. Hype up killer pie-in-the-sky feature that makes zero economic sense for Apple (see: retina iPad, 4G iPhone with larger screen). Traffic spikes. 2. As launch approaches, use "inside sources" to mock up designs (Macrumors's "we think the 5 will look like this"). Report on supply chain behavior, leaked case design…

Yup. MacRumors really did a disservice to everyone with that mock up stuff. I get what the reasoning was, but that doesn't make it any better. Sometimes the rumor sites just flat out get it wrong, and MacRumors I think is responsible for a lot of over-zealous reporting.

That said, the stock lost some ground, but the thing with Apple's stock, it always goes up before and after their quarterly earnings calls. They continue to defy the numbers people expect from it.

Their profits are going to continue to rise, and with it, so will the stock. The geeks that have to have the new shiny will be disappointed, however, the casual user will love the iPhone 4S and it well sell like crazy. At least just as well as the iPhone 4.

Were we all hoping to see an "iPhone 5" ? Yup. I think we all were hoping, however little, that it would show up. But many of us with any sense of reasoning and logic regarding Apple have pretty much known that this update was going to be almost exactly what it was. Apple is on a two year design plan. Excuse the original iPhone since that was the exception (again, not that the iPhone 5 couldn't have been one as well). But if you look at it now, it becomes a lot more clear. iPhone 3G-> iPhone 3GS (Faster processor, more ram and the same design). iPhone 4->iPhone 4S (Faster processor, probably more ram, same design).

Next year we'll see a new case design, and maybe it'll resemble the tapered design that has been rumored. I'm kind of hoping against it since it would be awkward to hold in landscape orientation. Something that is curved in both directions would be neat. As long as it is symetrical. The problem with a "banana" shape is that it would no longer sit flat on a desk and that would bother me.

I'm pretty happy with the iPhone4/4S case. I kind of wish it was a bit more curved on the edges since I find the metal "mid-case" to be a bit sharp, not a cut you kind of sharp, but it could be more blunt and thus more comfortable in your hand. Think more pebble shaped with regard to the sides.

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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It seems like, with most of the tech media, if they had called it a 5 it would have gone over better. The A5 processor in this thing is nothing to sneeze at. I am hopeful about the new antenna system, but will need to see it in action in a rural environment. Never mind the adding of Sprint and the price reduction on the 3GS and 4.

The screen is dense enough pixel wise, and consumers don't have to wait for new cases, bumpers, etc. since the iPhone 4 stuff works well. It is a good thing for consumers.

I am more and more convinced most of these stories were pre-written as soon as the 4S designation was found in iTunes. I am particularly down on All Things D and feel their reporting is pretty much useless.

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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post #18
post #12

Saw the common reaction to the iPhone 5 disappointment summarised loosely as: "If this new product looks like the last one, how will people tell that I'm superior to them?"

If this exact same phone had come out with the name "iPhone 5", and maybe a different case, people would be praising it to the heavens. People are weird.

We've seen this time and again with software versions. Software version 2 is worse than competitor version 5. Why? Well 2 If they had just called what was released yesterday an iPhone 5 there would have been much less disappointment. As far as a full redesign goes, I don't see a whole lot Apple can do. The height and width of the current phone seems near perfect. They could expand the screen a bit to be edge to edge, get rid of the physical home button, and taper the back (seems less likely now that they are using a dual antenna design) I guess.

I just don't see a much larger screen iPhone coming. I think Apple has already said if you want a large screen iPhone, buy an iPad.

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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I'm surprised nobody is pointing out similarity to Intel's very successful Tick-Tock release cycle - release a new architecture on tick and refine the process on tock

The benefits for Apple are manifold, but the two most obvious are:

1. Keep expectations sane - they can't release a radical new industrial design of superbly high quality every year.

2. Give customers on a 2 year contract predictable value rather than leaving them always waiting for the next awesome device

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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I think the reason there is no iPhone 5 is becoz the LTE / TD-LTE / WiMAX hybrid-chip is not yet ready. When iPhone 5 comes out it is gonna run on Verizon LTE, Sprint WiMAX and China Mobile TD-LTE networks.

Re: Why the iPhone 5 never arrived

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Is anyone really shocked? Here, I'll write out the tech media "design pattern" for a new Apple product. 1. Hype up killer pie-in-the-sky feature that makes zero economic sense for Apple (see: retina iPad, 4G iPhone with larger screen). Traffic spikes. 2. As launch approaches, use "inside sources" to mock up designs (Macrumors's "we think the 5 will look like this"). Report on supply chain behavior, leaked case design…

Most of these rumors are started by hedge funds with short positions in Apple.

1) Spread rumors about a product 2) Watch stock price go up 3) Wait for the actual product announcement 4) Short sale 5) Profit$$$

it happens everyday.

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