So this is what I wonder, what would the world look like if JavaScript was never created?
Ask HN: How would today's world look without JavaScript?
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#4It's fast.
It's more free from distractions.
It's accessible (plain text to copy-paste or feed a screen reader)
It's more secure.
It's limited.
The last of these is a bit obvious, and seems like a problem, until you try it and realise it's not. About 10% of websites will absolutely not run at all without JavaScript, and those seem to be the BigTech, low information density, low quality ones I can do without. So I take the "limitation"to be a feature, a free filter I get that weeds out a lot of the rubbish,
Once or twice a week there's about 0.5% of "essential" sites where I am effectively _forced_ to use JavaScript. For those I have a separate laptop.
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#5We'd be using VBScript. https://www.tutorialspoint.com/vbscript/vbscript_events.htm
Maybe with Webassembly we can revisit the model of a web that supports multiple programming languages. Either way, I'd rather have Javascript than VBScript.
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#6But basically without JavaScript we would have used Java applets and the Java Virtual machine.
So your browser would actually be a hypervisor where each "tab" is actually a container for the JVM. An inside that container you could execute any language that compiles to the JVM. Different apps would run in it even a web browser would run on it!....
A little bit like what wasm is trying to accomplish now but 25 years earlier.
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#8I can tell you. My entire web experience is JavaScript free on a day-to-day basis. It's fast. It's more free from distractions. It's accessible (plain text to copy-paste or feed a screen reader) It's more secure. It's limited. The last of these is a bit obvious, and seems like a problem, until you try it and realise it's not. About 10% of websites will absolutely not run at all without JavaScript, and those seem to b…
Re: Ask HN: How would today's world look without JavaScript?
#9I can tell you. My entire web experience is JavaScript free on a day-to-day basis. It's fast. It's more free from distractions. It's accessible (plain text to copy-paste or feed a screen reader) It's more secure. It's limited. The last of these is a bit obvious, and seems like a problem, until you try it and realise it's not. About 10% of websites will absolutely not run at all without JavaScript, and those seem to b…
Curious if essential sites include Google and YouTube. I tried running YouTube on my wife's old Win XP laptop and it refuses to load.
Youtube is unusable (I mean even on a normie browser) - it's a crazy mass of popups, frames, ever shifting css, things that jump around when you hover over... like a 90's Geocities site.
What I do is use duckduckgo (through the hidden service) to look for videos I want (it indexes all of them fine, but crafting the search terms is challenging), then just grab them using youtube-dl.
Increasingly though, search hits for lectures or talks I am looking for come up on sites other than youtube, and given the choice I'll download from the non-google one. Youtube-dl works with a surprising range of sites.