Windows needs a change in priorities

Post by dogleash » Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:18 PM UTC

sgjohnson wrote: post #252

petilon wrote: post #134

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You could say that about the post-Steve-Jobs Apple as well.

Is that really true though? Yes, the UIs Apple make are no longer anywhere near as intuitive as they were in Steve Jobs’ days, but Apple definitely still have their soul. You don’t even have to look further than the latest iMacs.

Post by eyelidlessness » Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:22 PM UTC

jenscow wrote: post #655

eyelidlessness wrote: post #84

I’m not a Windows user and I know this is not a popular opinion, but… I really wish Windows 8 had been better received. Sure it was a huge break from Win<8. But it was a bold, thoughtful and thorough one, with a lot of potential. Refining Metro but ultimately sticking to its core ideas would almost certainly have produced a better Windows experience overall than the basically incoherent changes which followed.

Well, you're right about one thing, > I know this is not a popular opinion

Post by [deleted] » Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:23 PM UTC

khaledh wrote: post #98

interstice wrote: post #37

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I have a theory that the people who used the bar on the side and the people who turned the user metrics off are the same people (myself included). But I’m not sure how I feel about the results. In any case I hope shells like litestep make a comeback as a result of ever more hostile ui decisions, either that or everyone jumps ship entirely to put energy into making something else great.

The problem is that Windows with all its warts now is still far ahead of the competition in that department (desktop GUI). Whether that's due to monopoly or being actually better, it doesn't matter. The fact is competition is almost non-existent.

Post by Ruphin » Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:26 PM UTC

6yyyyyy wrote: post #720

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The one thing I find the most terrible is the "10 different UI conventions" thing. Dig enough and I bet you'll find a control panel or some other thing the has Windows NT 3.1 look and feel. It says a lot how low the abstraction levels must have been that it's impossible, even to Microsoft, to update the UI widgets of a long-dead Windows release without breaking something else.

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Post by SteveMoody73 » Mon, Mar 21, 2022, 5:27 PM UTC

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Beginner friendly distos seem to have solved the package management problem, and there are adequate desktop environments, office suites, browsers, gaming, and everything else. But for professional use "adequate" doesn't cut it. Professionals need "good" and judge that by the standards of what is available on other platforms. 95% compatibility with the industry standard doesn't cut it. 80% of the features working at l…

> But for professional use "adequate" doesn't cut it. However bad Linux is at package management, Windows is even worse. So I'm not sure how your argument convinces people that Windows package managers are superior?