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Why Germany seems not to want a quick fix for the euro crisis

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Re: Why Germany seems not to want a quick fix for the euro crisis

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Even the title of this article doesn't make a large amount of sense. Of course the Germans want to take part in "fixing" the Euro crisis. But this is the problem with people in the finance world today. All they want is a "quick" fix. "Patch" the hole and the boat will stop leaking. I completely agree, something must be done to avert a double dip however a "quick fix" will not get us there. Most importantly, people need to increase their savings, lower spending.

Re: Why Germany seems not to want a quick fix for the euro crisis

#12
The real problem is the uncertainty of the solution. It is not clear whether strong action will have the slightest effect so Germany, given it's calamitous history with financial crises, is probably holding back just in case.

The picture of a group of penguins standing on the ice at the edge of the water waiting to see who jumps first (or gets pushed) seems to sum up the situation nicely.

Re: Why Germany seems not to want a quick fix for the euro crisis

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post #8

As the article makes a point of mentioning Angela Merkel... > All this is true. Yet Mrs Merkel seems to lack a sense of urgency. Despite the world’s calls for action, she does not believe in bold strokes—be it letting Greece default, or issuing Eurobonds to mutualise governments’ debt. Only a slow, step-by-step approach will work. In other words, the pain, austerity and market turmoil will go on for the foreseeable f…

Completely agree. There is a step by step process that must occur.

Re: Why Germany seems not to want a quick fix for the euro crisis

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post #8

As the article makes a point of mentioning Angela Merkel... > All this is true. Yet Mrs Merkel seems to lack a sense of urgency. Despite the world’s calls for action, she does not believe in bold strokes—be it letting Greece default, or issuing Eurobonds to mutualise governments’ debt. Only a slow, step-by-step approach will work. In other words, the pain, austerity and market turmoil will go on for the foreseeable f…

Others will jump in to say that markets are not predictable like chemical bonds, but i would counter-argue that they should be more predictable and less fear-and-rumour-driven

Re: Why Germany seems not to want a quick fix for the euro crisis

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post #5

As a German I must say that in my opinion this article captures the German sentiment very well. On the one hand it is short sided, it will likely lead to more economic problems than necessary and the stance of the Euro members (and Germany especially) on Greece is hurting the economy there much more than necessary. On the other hand I do feel that some of this sentiment is justified. After all the example of Italy (B…

The german government seems really wise in this regard. The notion that there are any easy "fixes" to something as complex and intricate as an economy is very suspect to me. Things like quantitative easing seem way more dangerous than simply making sure your financial fundamentals are sound.

Re: Why Germany seems not to want a quick fix for the euro crisis

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post #5

As a German I must say that in my opinion this article captures the German sentiment very well. On the one hand it is short sided, it will likely lead to more economic problems than necessary and the stance of the Euro members (and Germany especially) on Greece is hurting the economy there much more than necessary. On the other hand I do feel that some of this sentiment is justified. After all the example of Italy (B…

While morally entirely correct (IMHO, I'm Dutch, we also use the same word for guilt as we do for debt) I doubt the Germans can hold on to this position for very long. Apparently the German "Landesbanken" are heavily invested in Greek and other crappy debt, which is a problem because these banks also fund a large part of the "real" German economy. So Germany probably has no choice but to prop up the lousy debt.

Re: Why Germany seems not to want a quick fix for the euro crisis

#17

"The vast majority of financial transactions, he told fellow finance ministers in a closed meeting earlier this month, “do not serve the real economy”. When markets go astray the answer is not to make the taxpayer step in once more, but to introduce better regulation." Spot on!

With this caveat that financial markets fund a lot of the real economy as well. So you really don't want banks going bust left and right, as morally righteuous as that would be.

Re: Why Germany seems not to want a quick fix for the euro crisis

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One of the many reasons we got that far the global crisis is probably the reactive attitude "jump when the markets tell you so". As a German I find it comforting that our chancellor is not of that kind. One can criticize many points, but one has to agree that she does not fear head wind. Would be nice to have more politicians of her kind in Germany.

Re: Why Germany seems not to want a quick fix for the euro crisis

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Also interesting that the Economist continues to come up with the same kind of story every week. Just check the last Economist links that were posted on HN over tha last weeks and you will see that they all have the same message. To be honest, I would expect them to be more diverse.

Re: Why Germany seems not to want a quick fix for the euro crisis

#20
The EU has and always will be a forced construct that Germany will essentially have to shoulder. Other countries were going to tolerate Germany's reunion only when they support the EU. Now that they realize how the construct attempts to level the standards of live across the union, Germany realizes in what kind of downward spiral they tapped.

Going to be even more "fun" to watch, when certain rules such as "penalty" for countries that export more than they import are enforced. Germany makes an excellent Hamster-in-the-wheel.

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