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Apple Studio Display Contains 64GB of Storage, but Only 2GB Used

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Re: Apple Studio Display Contains 64GB of Storage, but Only 2GB Used

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Post by WithinReason »

mrtksn wrote: post #20
adolph wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> It's essentially really powerful computer embedded into a display. If by "really powerful computer" you mean "couple year old cellphone" then yes. I wonder if the iOS device is connected to the display at all or if it just there to run the camera and some peripherals? If it is connected to the display, I wonder if the future game plan is to allow for a wireless display using something similar to Sidecar. Totally la…

No I mean really powerful computer. iPhone 11 can handle quite complex tasks, people do real time face/expression tracking and mesh modelling, image processing, video editing and all kind stuff on this device.

So you do mean that

Re: Apple Studio Display Contains 64GB of Storage, but Only 2GB Used

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Post by systoll »

samatman wrote: post #12

The Apple Studio Display is a very Tim Cook sort of product. Cook is the supply chain and logistics wizard who saw Apple into the behemoth era, and the mentality he brings to the company is all over this device. The 27" panels from the now discontinued iMac in that size meet the A13 Bionic at end of life, and the same front-facing camera they put on everything else. The Studio Display is a bit like a restaurant servi…

> I can get a lot more display for $1500 (MSI Prestige 5k2k)

I have that monitor… but it’s 3/4 of the studio display in terms of pixel count.

Re: Apple Studio Display Contains 64GB of Storage, but Only 2GB Used

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Post by simonlc »

tiffanyh wrote: post #19

FaceID There's folks in this thread talking about why FaceID is lacking from this display given there is presumably just an iPhone 11 logic board in this display and I think they are missing the bigger picture here. I'm not certain FaceID will ever come to a non-iOS device, here's why... With your iPhone/iPad - the OS knows you want to be authenticated because you pick up the device and the device uses that pickup/ac…

How does windows hello work?

Re: Apple Studio Display Contains 64GB of Storage, but Only 2GB Used

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Post by sebow »

tiffanyh wrote: post #19

FaceID There's folks in this thread talking about why FaceID is lacking from this display given there is presumably just an iPhone 11 logic board in this display and I think they are missing the bigger picture here. I'm not certain FaceID will ever come to a non-iOS device, here's why... With your iPhone/iPad - the OS knows you want to be authenticated because you pick up the device and the device uses that pickup/ac…

>So what would macOS use to trigger when FaceID should be initiated?

The equivalent system on another OS? At least when talking Android that should be easy since accelerometer(/gyroscope w/o gravity) are already available from the OS side. When talking windows/linux that's arguably harder but not impossible. The only major caveat is required hardware for that. But this situation is somewhat similar to Microsoft Hello, except we're not talking entirely about cameras.

These are just wishful ideas though, and you are right: we know Apple will never open their face ID implementation ever, let alone give users outside their ecosystem the possibility of using Face ID for any of their services/products. To that end, I don't even know if there's a use case where someone could need Face ID on a non-Apple device.

Re: Apple Studio Display Contains 64GB of Storage, but Only 2GB Used

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Post by mrtksn »

WithinReason wrote: post #21
mrtksn wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No I mean really powerful computer. iPhone 11 can handle quite complex tasks, people do real time face/expression tracking and mesh modelling, image processing, video editing and all kind stuff on this device.

So you do mean that

Obviously I don't mean it's a cell phone. Look at this thing, where do you put the sim card? I mean really powerful computer identical to one inside the iPhone 11 apparently.

Re: Apple Studio Display Contains 64GB of Storage, but Only 2GB Used

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Post by GekkePrutser »

richbradshaw wrote: post #17
samatman wrote: post #12

The Apple Studio Display is a very Tim Cook sort of product. Cook is the supply chain and logistics wizard who saw Apple into the behemoth era, and the mentality he brings to the company is all over this device. The 27" panels from the now discontinued iMac in that size meet the A13 Bionic at end of life, and the same front-facing camera they put on everything else. The Studio Display is a bit like a restaurant servi…

I haven't heard of that monitor, but looked it up as looked interesting - people say it has burn in, that it randomly turns off when using M1 Mac Mini, that you can't get full resolution on some Macs (though maybe they used wrong cables) and that can only update the firmware via Windows. I think this is where Apple 'just does stuff right' - you know if you buy the Studio Monitor that it will just work, having built i…

All IPS displays have some "burn in" but it's not permanent. It's image persistence. It was also commented on a lot with the first IPS MacBooks. It's a bit annoying but not a serious issue like (or CRT) burn in. And we have a good existing way of preventing it, the screen saver. Even if it does happen it goes away in a couple hours.

I think the studio display is really poor value though as previously you would get a whole computer included for pretty much the same price. The little extras really have to be in your corner to be worth it.

Re: Apple Studio Display Contains 64GB of Storage, but Only 2GB Used

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Post by FireBeyond »

richbradshaw wrote: post #17
samatman wrote: post #12

The Apple Studio Display is a very Tim Cook sort of product. Cook is the supply chain and logistics wizard who saw Apple into the behemoth era, and the mentality he brings to the company is all over this device. The 27" panels from the now discontinued iMac in that size meet the A13 Bionic at end of life, and the same front-facing camera they put on everything else. The Studio Display is a bit like a restaurant servi…

I haven't heard of that monitor, but looked it up as looked interesting - people say it has burn in, that it randomly turns off when using M1 Mac Mini, that you can't get full resolution on some Macs (though maybe they used wrong cables) and that can only update the firmware via Windows. I think this is where Apple 'just does stuff right' - you know if you buy the Studio Monitor that it will just work, having built i…

> that you can't get full resolution on some Macs

This is one area that Apple definitely does not "just do stuff right". Display Stream Compression has been broken (for Intel Macs) - and by broken I don't mean 'suboptimal', but "completely nonfunctional" ever since the first beta of Big Sur, and is to this day - is a well-known, documented issue (many users, multiple GPUs, differing monitors), though Apple has yet to acknowledge it.

My 2019 Mac Pro cheesegrater could, under Catalina, drive 4K monitors in 10 bit HDR at 144Hz.

As soon as Big Sur was installed, your options became HDR@60Hz or SDR@95Hz. Turn off DSC in the monitor and you get the DP1.2 bandwidth.

Re: Apple Studio Display Contains 64GB of Storage, but Only 2GB Used

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Post by FireBeyond »

philistine wrote: post #18
samatman wrote: post #12

The Apple Studio Display is a very Tim Cook sort of product. Cook is the supply chain and logistics wizard who saw Apple into the behemoth era, and the mentality he brings to the company is all over this device. The 27" panels from the now discontinued iMac in that size meet the A13 Bionic at end of life, and the same front-facing camera they put on everything else. The Studio Display is a bit like a restaurant servi…

Apple would not introduce functionnality like Face ID in an update. That is not how they operate. As a matter of fact, I'm not so sure they have every single sensor required for Face ID in that display.

They just introduced Universal Control in an update, so it seems entirely how they might operate.

Re: Apple Studio Display Contains 64GB of Storage, but Only 2GB Used

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Post by wincy »

tiffanyh wrote: post #19

FaceID There's folks in this thread talking about why FaceID is lacking from this display given there is presumably just an iPhone 11 logic board in this display and I think they are missing the bigger picture here. I'm not certain FaceID will ever come to a non-iOS device, here's why... With your iPhone/iPad - the OS knows you want to be authenticated because you pick up the device and the device uses that pickup/ac…

They’d do the same thing the App Store and iTunes Store purchase prompt does. You confirm you want to purchase in addition to the FaceID prompt.

Re: Apple Studio Display Contains 64GB of Storage, but Only 2GB Used

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Post by hughrr »

samatman wrote: post #12

The Apple Studio Display is a very Tim Cook sort of product. Cook is the supply chain and logistics wizard who saw Apple into the behemoth era, and the mentality he brings to the company is all over this device. The 27" panels from the now discontinued iMac in that size meet the A13 Bionic at end of life, and the same front-facing camera they put on everything else. The Studio Display is a bit like a restaurant servi…

Agree with you. But in my case I use a MBP as a desktop 80% of the time so wanted a zero hassle monitor that will charge my MBP and take over some of the ancillary functions built into the laptop. It does that perfectly so I bought one and I love it already.

The price is high but it's not unreasonable for the overall quality and it comes with decent service and support unlike all other vendors in the UK which hire third party repairers who are hell to deal with.

Edit: really interested to see a teardown of this display appear. Not sure if anyone will do one though :(

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