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Windows needs a change in priorities

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Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by avsteele »

Article is 90% spot-on. Win11 is the first time I do not want to upgrade, because it turns the actual bad parts of Win 10 up to...11!

MS is annihilating the good will they get from me via VSCode, Terminal, VStudio etc...

1) The ads, my god, the ads! Even normal, non-tech, people see this stuff and make a sour face.

2) "Lets finish setting up your PC" : Excuse me sir, its been set up for 4 years. Stop trying to get me to link my phone! I don't want O365 at home! I don't want to switch to Edge (it is not terrible but have made another choice.) I better be careful ant not mis-click or god knows what settings will be changed.

The UI stuff i really don't care a wit about.

Suggestion: Whatever, fine leave this garbage in 'Home' edition but let 'Pro' mean PRO and stop fighting me.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by pndy »

sleepycatgirl wrote: post #535
pndy wrote: post #379

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Not the parent comment but I'm getting random freezes on two different machines with different guts; sometimes system resumes and sometimes it requires a hard reset. Doesn't matter if its Manjaro or Linux Mint or Fedora, or which kernel I'm using. My GPU is no longer supported and I couldn't revert to last working Nvidia drivers in Manjaro because things were changed . Not sure how the open source version is capable…

I can see 3 possible things there 1) Nvidia being Nvidia If both PCs have Nvidia... Back when I had Nvidia, I had exactly same problem. Random freezes, no matter which distro/kernel, sometimes needed reset. 2) RAM issue As much as its unlikely on both machines, testing RAM doesn't hurt 3) Hard drive degradation Similar results as in 1), but buying new disk solved the issue.

One machines has mentioned Nvidia GPU, the second is ATI, RAM is also different on both machines and tested already. The issue occurs on both SSDs and HDDs.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by theclansman »

DeathArrow wrote: post #490

Some of the anti-user patterns aren't even pioneered by Microsoft, they simply fall in the anti-user direction many big companies are pushing. Ads in apps? Pioneered in Android. Tricking the user to log in using Microsoft account? You can't make much use of an Android phone unless you sign in with your google account. Also, Apple requests having an Apple Id. I wonder what if someone at Apple, Google, Microsoft decide…

These companies all copy each other's bad practices, it's no surprise there, if one can get away with it the rest will follow.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by nyuszika7h »

mikevin wrote: post #131
rbut wrote: post #56

Talking about dark patterns, here are a couple I've noticed. In Windows, I'm very careful about NOT signing in to anything Microsoft, unless I have to. I make sure I use a local administrator account instead of a Microsoft account. Yesterday I had to open Microsoft Edge for something that would only work in Edge, and lo-and-behold, Microsoft had taken my Xbox Game Pass sign-in and applied to Edge, then informed me th…

> It's even worse when you activate Office 365. There is a small checkbox at the end which if you don't uncheck, converts your local administrator into your Microsoft account.. Going back to a local administrator account is not an easy task. I'm not even sure it's possible, I've tried multiple approaches but gave up after almost having to do a clean install. Now I have to deal with an accountname that contains multip…

> Now I have to deal with an accountname that contains multiple characters that make WSL interactions with the windows paths a game of Russian roulette with shell quoting bullets.

Really? For me, when I install Windows with a Microsoft account, it makes my username just something like "nyusz" rather than "nyuszika7h".

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by _dain_ »

choward wrote: post #440
dimgl wrote: post #299

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I see this argument in every thread about Linux. There's always this one magical user where everything "just works", has had 0 issues and everything's just dandy.

What are some specific issues? Most of the stuff I hear is either hardware related or some software someone used on Windows doesn't exist on Linux. For hardware issues it depends on the hardware you're using. Since most drivers aren't open source, full Linux support often comes a while after it's released. I don't use the most recent hardware and haven't had a problem where something doesn't "just work" in years. I d…

>What are some specific issues?

the gnome filepicker has no thumbnails

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by _dain_ »

legalcorrection wrote: post #395
dimgl wrote: post #299

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I see this argument in every thread about Linux. There's always this one magical user where everything "just works", has had 0 issues and everything's just dandy.

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>they don't care for the fingerprint reader anyway

does anyone actually use those? i've always thought they were a stupid gimmick

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by balakk »

derac wrote: post #570
apatheticonion wrote: post #466

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omg thank you for this. The amount of people trying to tell me WSL2 is groundbreaking - meanwhile I have been rocking Fedora in virtualbox for years. WSL1 was really interesting, but ultimately Microsoft needed a flagship product to demonstrate the capabilities of Hyper-V and WSL was the perfect project.

To be clear, wsl 2 lets you interact with the Windows filesystem. I believe you can launch exes in wsl1, but not 2. However, I've never needed to do that. It's definitely not groundbreaking, but it is convenient. Using it with the new terminal app is nice. It will load and unload the ram for the instance immediately whenever you pop open a linux shell. IMO opening and closing virtualbox/hyper-v takes longer and is cl…

Windows exes open fine in WSL2. You can also run linux apps from a Windows prompt - which is weird, but it works.

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/wsl/filesystems

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by scarface74 »

raxxorrax wrote: post #566
GekkePrutser wrote: post #211

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Yes, I moved away too. So much dumbing down, so many things changed just for the sake of it. And of course no settings to revert it. Eventually it was just too annoying to upgrade. A lot of it is security hardening but the problem is I have to give all control to Apple. There is no way for me to change anything in the read only OS part without the whole rigmarole of booting into recovery mode and blessing my changes…

They have long understood that security is always an argument to throw into the pot to justify their changes. Boot malware isn't really a widely spread problem in 22 and MS still pushes TPM 2.0. It is probably less about user security than control about users and machines.

This is what can happen when you turn off SIP on the Mac. You can’t trust developers to not be careless and/or malignant.

https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2019/09/no-it...

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by emptysongglass »

deadbeeves wrote: post #575
emptysongglass wrote: post #549

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> Are you implying that the natural tendency of a product is to get worse until it's no better than its competitors? Yes! And I'll get a little philosophical here but if we really take an eagle's eye view on the source of this problem it's that capitalism insists on growth to keep the machine of prosperity running. On a microcosmic scale you can see this at work inside companies, which must pursue new growth streams…

Fair enough. I don't think capitalism is the source of the problem, though, but public trading of company shares. And more specifically, the concept of fiduciary responsibility. I honestly think that's poison in how it misaligns incentives and that it's socially a net negative, if we assume that the societal purpose of a company is primarily to provide services to its customers.

I think your take on the root cause is more nuanced and better than my own. That said, I don't know how we change an industry entrenched in this poison field.
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