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Windows needs a change in priorities

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Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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It definitely suffers from a number of problems in MS, probably mostly due from having a very large organisation with different priorities:

1) UX teams who have to change things to jutify their existence. None of the problems in Windows 10 imho were related to major UX problems, just things that should have been fixed like the stupid search function which can't find "Explorer" when you type in "Explore" 2) UX people who think that the world cares as much as they do about the fact the UI looks a bit "dated" and needs to be refreshed otherwise people will leave! Apple haven't massively changed MacOS and people still use that. 3) Strategic people who are trying to pre-empt or force a different way of interacting with the OS so that things like AI, blockchain, or whatever will work more naturally. 4) Development teams who have decided that the programming model is wrong again and therefore they will make a load more changes. If I was a Product Manager at MS I would be depressed and embarrassed by the number of inconsistencies in the platform. It would be understandable if "windows 10 apps will start to look different" but this is so random, it is annoying. 5) Finance people who can't accept that a paid-for product should have exactly zero adverts and the whole premise is obnoxious and stinks of greed when it's not like MS are struggling to make money. 6) Cloud everything even when those experiences e.g. Office365 are noticeably worse in the cloud. Also, they are charging you the same/more even though they can now manage everything centrally with no deployment costs. 7) The whole security accounts eco system is another disaster. "Log in with MS account", "Is it a work or personal account?". How should I know? It's your account. "Do you want to link all these devices?" "No", "Well we will anyway because we have assumed you want to and we were only asking to pretend it was your choice"

Microsoft, Microsoft, we love you but we need to talk!

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

#592

Like every Windows user, I have had a lot of frustrating experiences with the abusive behavior and dark patterns that have taken over the platform. Like when they started having Skype silently run in the background logged in with the user's Microsoft account without any notice or human intervention, and removed the setting to disable it from launching at startup so that it couldn't be prevented. I had to completely u…

I dont think it is contempt for the users, It is more that consumers (i.e non-enterprise editions of windows) is the Beta Test group for windows

Microsoft has always been, and will always be an enterprise company, they do not care about Consumers, and they do not care about SMB business. they care about Large Enterprise.

I have seen it countless times in my career, SMB space and can be complaining up a storm about a problem for years but until some 20,000+ employee CTO has the problem MS will not give it the time of day.

It is all numbers, and if you are not a government or Large corporation Microsoft does not give you the time of day

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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It seems to frequently be true that Microsoft releases a horrifying nightmare OS, polishes is up and removes hated features, and then releases a new version. It's been a bit of a pattern. Windows 8 -> Windows 10 Windows Vista -> Windows 7 and even before that: Windows Me -> Windows 2000 -> Windows XP was a pretty solid chain that shows it over three releases (personally I think XP was buggier, I don't know what the i…

Microsoft has a tick tock approach to consumer OS releases, where every other OS is “the good one”. Windows me - bad Windows xp - good Windows vista - bad Windows 7 - good Windows 8 - bad Windows 10 - good Windows 11 - bad For a bad release windows 11 is pretty good. This gives me hope that windows 12 will be their best ever. This is why it would have been smart of them to stick to windows 10 like they planned, but l…

>Microsoft has a tick tock approach to consumer OS releases

Nice idea but it just doesn't fit.

Windows 95/98/Me were all poor.

XP was widely panned when it came out because existing hardware wasn't quite good enough and it was riddled with security issues. Rememebr SP2?

Where did 8.1 go?

Windows 10 is full of the stuff people are complaining about in this thread.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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>Linux still barely works in 2022 I have had zero problem running linux as my daily driver for the last 10 years, care to explain your comment? The only problem that I have is that video games don't always work because the developers don't care.

I see this argument in every thread about Linux. There's always this one magical user where everything "just works", has had 0 issues and everything's just dandy.

The funny thing is, it's not the year of the Linux desktop, but it's increasingly not the year of the Windows desktop anymore either. "Linux is shit, and Windows just works" is becoming less true as we go; so Linux being bad stops being as convincing an argument when Windows is frustrating in different ways.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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What is wrong with Linux nowadays? I've used it as my main driver for long enough that I can't see the big problems that are preventing everyone from switching. Like, it seems easier than even WSL to me. Beginner friendly distos seem to have solved the package management problem, and there are adequate desktop environments, office suites, browsers, gaming, and everything else. If a person has good hardware compatibil…

With Linux while sitting idle my laptop burns battery about twice as fast as it does on Windows while I go about my normal workflow. This is a laptop which is certified for both Fedora and Ubuntu.

Using auto-cpufreq or other cpu frequency scaling services can make my laptop run way longer than with windows.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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But it’s linux, so one obscure setting in a config file or slightly different hardware can make all the difference. I say this as a linux user since WinXP. The whole OS market is pretty rough right now.

I use macOS + Windows + Pop!_OS (Ubuntu-based) on a daily basis and they're all better or worse depending on the task at hand. They're all useable but imperfect. For me, Windows is for gaming and some music production stuff, macOS is my work laptop and dev environment, and Ubuntu is for most other things like personal use, but also my desktop dev environment. Testing Windows stuff on an M1 Mac with Parallels doesn't…

You can run macOS under VMWare Workstation Player on Linux using an unlocker. If you combine it with a serial from an actual mac you own, but no longer use, you can get iMessage working also.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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> I can literally run a game written for Windows 95 on Windows 11 without major issues

This is not my experience with Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic. Worked flawlessly with Proton but it didn't even launch correctly on Windows 10. It's a hit-or-miss and not a silver bullet.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Talking about dark patterns, here are a couple I've noticed. In Windows, I'm very careful about NOT signing in to anything Microsoft, unless I have to. I make sure I use a local administrator account instead of a Microsoft account. Yesterday I had to open Microsoft Edge for something that would only work in Edge, and lo-and-behold, Microsoft had taken my Xbox Game Pass sign-in and applied to Edge, then informed me th…

> In Windows, I'm very careful about NOT signing in to anything Microsoft and then you try to look at a picture of your kids but it's a HEIC file from an iPhone so Windows says you have to go to the Store and download Microsoft HEVC decoder which for some reason wasn't bundled with Windows but hey it's just a dollar oh that's nearly free we just need your credit card details and e-mail and make a user account and wou…

But who needs HEVC, when you have 3D objects.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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I’m not a Windows user and I know this is not a popular opinion, but… I really wish Windows 8 had been better received. Sure it was a huge break from Win<8. But it was a bold, thoughtful and thorough one, with a lot of potential. Refining Metro but ultimately sticking to its core ideas would almost certainly have produced a better Windows experience overall than the basically incoherent changes which followed.

I'm convinced Windows 8 is a better tablet OS than 10. I don't know if it's a better desktop OS.

What I don't understand is why they decided to shoehorn Windows onto their tablets instead of the Windows Phone OS. Windows phone was well received, it would have made far more sense. Apple could see that wasn't going to work, why couldn't Microsoft.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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There isn't much competition in the desktop space. It's either macOS with its downsides or Windows with its downsides. Basically neither Microsoft nor Apple have any pressure to make life better for users.

The incentives do seem slightly different although I do worry about Apple's forays into services.
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