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Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by dragonwriter »

jiggawatts wrote: post #273
ripley12 wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What little new stuff they're putting out (e.g.: Visual Studio Code) is a tyre fire of low quality tools I have no idea why you would say this. VS Code is an incredibly popular and well-liked product.

It is popular because it filled a niche where next to nothing existed, so for people in those fields anything is a step up. For people like me forced to come over from Visual Studio and other editors, it's a huge step down. For example, instead of making improvements to the PowerShell Integrated Scripting Environment (ISE), Microsoft marked it as deprecated and "forced" everyone over to Visual Studio Code, whether th…

> For people like me forced to come over from Visual Studio and other editors, it's a huge step down.

Sure, if your entire usage is the stuff that VS does well (which is a very narrow range compared to Code), and you are used to VS, it's probably an annoyance.

> I could rant for hours on how poor the Visual Studio Code quality is, but nobody will listen, because for people upgrading from Notepad, it's the second coming of Jesus.

Almost none of the things I do with Code I would have done with Notepad before. There are lots of non-IDE programmers editors that existed before Code. It may not be as good as VS or some IntelliJ variants for the use cases those IDEs are best for, but it's better for almost everything else than almost anything, and even for the things those major commercial IDEs specialize in, it's good enough for lots of specific use cases that when you need to do that plus other things, the context switch of using the commercial IDE for some tasks isn't worth it.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by Geenirvana »

rbut wrote: post #56

Talking about dark patterns, here are a couple I've noticed. In Windows, I'm very careful about NOT signing in to anything Microsoft, unless I have to. I make sure I use a local administrator account instead of a Microsoft account. Yesterday I had to open Microsoft Edge for something that would only work in Edge, and lo-and-behold, Microsoft had taken my Xbox Game Pass sign-in and applied to Edge, then informed me th…

I do not mind logging into a Microsoft account however the most bizarre situation happened to me very recently.

I will occasionally log into my personal Microsoft account when accessing a Microsoft website when I am on Lunch to work on some personal projects.

At work last week, I was upgraded to Office 365 and as a result I started downloading the latest versions and trying it out in various ways. One of these was upgrading my old OneNote into the latest version (2013 -> 365)

Saturday morning, I booted up my own different PC at home and notice in the "Recommended" section on the Windows 11 start menu "Work 365". This is the name of the OneNote I created at work when I upgraded the document. I do not even have Office on my own PC. Hovering over it would show that it was located in my Works One Drive folder.

I must have been logged into my personal account on OneNote and it somehow meta-data? links it between the work and personal accounts.

I am now in process of removing all traces of my personal account from Windows on my work laptop as the very last thing I want to happen is to see personal files appearing in the Recommended section of my works laptop!

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by sylens »

graycat wrote: post #368

Except for some details , I really REALLY like Windows. Really what I'm liking is computing, and Windows is a big part of that because I selected Windows instead of Linux. Over the years there have been some changes: So, we have new hardware, some HUGELY important new communications standards, a huge effort on computer security, etc., and it is crucial that Windows has kept up with the changes. I like that. And I lik…

> So far, I like .NET. I do wish Microsoft had explained, just explained in simple text, just what the heck .NET CORE was. By now I've come to a guess that .NET CORE is irrelevant to me and I should f'get about it -- would have been nice to have had some EXPLANATION.

I would say that .NET Core is certainly relevant to you and shouldn’t be ignored.

As for a simple explanation, another user on this site wrote this which I found extremely helpful. https://dusted.codes/dotnet-basics

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by donkarma »

holyyikes wrote: post #444
shp0ngle wrote: post #238

Well, what are you going to do. Not use Windows? Linux still barely works in 2022 (and if one distro will become really popular, with a big investment of money like Ubuntu did once, they will ad ads, like Ubuntu added Amazon), and MacOS works just on Apple HW (and has ads for Apple services baked-in too, just less obnoxious). You can use ChromeOS! Which is literally ad tech. Pick your poison.

I find it hilarious that people even entertain the idea that the only roadblock for MacOS is that it only works on Apple hardware. Gamers would NOT want an OS run by those psychopaths. MacOS is junk. And Valve/Steamdeck is really just creating even more Windows dependence. Because of Proton everyone just assumes you don't need to make cross platform games anymore, so game devs are just happy making Windows only games…

steam could instantly reduce the weight by insisting that all games must run on linux by policy

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by YPPH »

mulmen wrote: post #543
YPPH wrote: post #537

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All I want is macOS with window snapping and a maximise button. Their absence makes shifting from Windows very difficult. I can't understand why these basic features have not been added, yet the OS receives changes that, as you rightly point out, tend to defile the user experience. I can't understand why people would want to make windows full screen in ordinary situations. It seems to be something I would only want t…

To be clear, I think the power in a windowing desktop environment is not having to maximize windows. That’s a compromise for small screens. When I upgraded my 2014 RMBP to Big Sur I lost the ability to compose multiple windows because of the grotesque enlargement of the window header. The ability to snap to fill the screen may be useful on tiny screens but with Mac hardware shouldn’t be as important because the real…

Sure, but if I want to use one app on my screen and still have access to the menu bar, it means awkwardly dragging the window around to fill gaps. In Windows, it's one click.

Similarly, if I want two apps side by side, it's even more awkward. Ideally I would want to avoid wasting pixels by having unfilled areas, so it's a lot of finnicky dragging to make sure they align up. In Windows, it requires two clicks.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by simion314 »

_Algernon_ wrote: post #66
rbut wrote: post #56

Talking about dark patterns, here are a couple I've noticed. In Windows, I'm very careful about NOT signing in to anything Microsoft, unless I have to. I make sure I use a local administrator account instead of a Microsoft account. Yesterday I had to open Microsoft Edge for something that would only work in Edge, and lo-and-behold, Microsoft had taken my Xbox Game Pass sign-in and applied to Edge, then informed me th…

Looks like switching to linux when win 7 support ended was the right move. All my games may randomly freeze for no discernible reason, but at least I don't have to deal with that BS.

>All my games may randomly freeze for no discernible reason,

Could be a GPU thermal issue, happens to me with old games that have no FPS limit, then the GPU does so much work that it hangs for some reason(Nvidia GT970), I am not sure if is my GPU broken/dusty, the driver bugged or Xorg, Windows users only see a game crash not a full system crash.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by robertlagrant »

tcmart14 wrote: post #489
ihateolives wrote: post #437

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> But the issue here is not inherently with Linux. It is more so with vendors of printers making drivers. Users don't care. For them things either work or not. Users are not going to e-mail Brother or Nvidia or Microsoft to fix their issues with printers, video cards or Onedrive. How is that so hard to understand?

If the vendors got metrics that showed that desktop linux user share was enough and viable enough, they would. The issue is, Linux users are a small share of the desktop market. But, if that number grew, it changes. Hardware vendors would port their drivers over once the potential revenue of customers on a different platform outweighs the cost in doing so. Otherwise, I don't think Brother or Nvidia really give a damn…

This is true, but still - people want to print documents. They don't want to run Linux (or Windows). If they can't print documents, that's a problem.

The solution was Google Cloud Print, IMO. That was a great idea. Who cares what you run, as long as it can connect to the internet you can print. I don't know how in-depth it got with the various crazy menu systems

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by anthk »

lelanthran wrote: post #496
knighthack wrote: post #360

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How do you browse the Internet then?

> How do you browse the Internet then? I assume by > using a window manager for ever I've used WindowMaker as a Window manager for decades. Only recently did I decide to switch to Mate because I wanted a taskbar at the bottom with useful things like applets to show and switch Wifi/network, volume control and often-used icons/launchers. TBH, if I could get things like tint2 and yabar working with the mate applets, I'd…

use Fluxbox, you could set some applets with standalone software.

Pnmixer for Pulseaudio, NM-applet/connman...

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by unhammer »

rbut wrote: post #56

Talking about dark patterns, here are a couple I've noticed. In Windows, I'm very careful about NOT signing in to anything Microsoft, unless I have to. I make sure I use a local administrator account instead of a Microsoft account. Yesterday I had to open Microsoft Edge for something that would only work in Edge, and lo-and-behold, Microsoft had taken my Xbox Game Pass sign-in and applied to Edge, then informed me th…

> In Windows, I'm very careful about NOT signing in to anything Microsoft

and then you try to look at a picture of your kids but it's a HEIC file from an iPhone so Windows says you have to go to the Store and download Microsoft HEVC decoder which for some reason wasn't bundled with Windows but hey it's just a dollar oh that's nearly free we just need your credit card details and e-mail and make a user account and would you like a free newsletter with that LOOK OVER THERE whileweswitchdefaultbrowsers and check out what else is on sale today

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by DeathArrow »

fgonzag wrote: post #313
shp0ngle wrote: post #238

Well, what are you going to do. Not use Windows? Linux still barely works in 2022 (and if one distro will become really popular, with a big investment of money like Ubuntu did once, they will ad ads, like Ubuntu added Amazon), and MacOS works just on Apple HW (and has ads for Apple services baked-in too, just less obnoxious). You can use ChromeOS! Which is literally ad tech. Pick your poison.

I've been running Linux ever since Windows 11 was announced, even though I was relatively happy with W10 + WSL. I had tried it quite a few times over the years but had never stuck with it until now, because it all just works... All my games have worked mostly flawlessly. I'm a developer, so all my tools were already available. I'm in love with KDE's design and customizability and relatively happy with its performance…

> I'm a developer, so all my tools were already available.

I use Visual Studio, so that is not my case. And besides working I use Photoshop and Lightroom a lot. And some gaming, which I can't do on Linux.

Apart from that, even not doing anything else in Linux but browsing the web is a poor experience for me.

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