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Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by tjr225 »

skoskie wrote: post #122
foerbert wrote: post #88

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Really? I made the same move (or at least finished it 100%) at the same time, and that's not a problem I've ever seen. Some (surprisingly few, actually) don't perform well under Wine/Proton, or at all, but random freezing I've never seen. And certainly not all of my games.

But it’s linux, so one obscure setting in a config file or slightly different hardware can make all the difference. I say this as a linux user since WinXP. The whole OS market is pretty rough right now.

Unless you care about gaming MacOS has been rock solid for at least a decade. For what it is worth I am no mac fanboy, I am typing this to you on a windows 10 computer in my shop(that I use for gaming, among other things).

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by imron »

ripley12 wrote: post #227
jiggawatts wrote: post #198

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There's also that they "decided" that none of their core customer bases actually matter. They no longer cater to the needs of anyone . Some random examples: Enterprise -- It's cloud or the highway. You're either migrating to Azure and Microsoft 365, or stuck in dead-ends with virtually no maintenance/attention. Core products have just been left twisting in the wind. Active Directory for example has had no major featu…

> What little new stuff they're putting out (e.g.: Visual Studio Code) is a tyre fire of low quality tools I have no idea why you would say this. VS Code is an incredibly popular and well-liked product.

That consumes a full core for intellisense the entire time it's running if you have a large c++ codebase.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by fgonzag »

shp0ngle wrote: post #238

Well, what are you going to do. Not use Windows? Linux still barely works in 2022 (and if one distro will become really popular, with a big investment of money like Ubuntu did once, they will ad ads, like Ubuntu added Amazon), and MacOS works just on Apple HW (and has ads for Apple services baked-in too, just less obnoxious). You can use ChromeOS! Which is literally ad tech. Pick your poison.

I've been running Linux ever since Windows 11 was announced, even though I was relatively happy with W10 + WSL. I had tried it quite a few times over the years but had never stuck with it until now, because it all just works... All my games have worked mostly flawlessly. I'm a developer, so all my tools were already available. I'm in love with KDE's design and customizability and relatively happy with its performance. The AUR is a godsend.

I actually have to use office quite a bit and settled on freeoffice (which is freeware and not open source). It works perfectly for my needs. The Teams client is crap but I've always dodged it.

Evolution suits my needs (O365 connectivity + a host of other personal email accounts). We still need a better Linux email client, I'm seriously considering it making it my lifetime hobby project (I'm imagining a server + client implementation to make it easier to decouple the UI as I'd really like both a TUI and GUI).

The only thing for which I spin up a VM every now and then is for graphics editing (I use the affinity suite which is amazing for its price but just doesn't work with Wine).

Really the only people who can't use reliably use Linux are those who use proprietary apps that don't work on Wine (which there aren't that many) and designers. If you're a power user I'd definitely recommend you give a spin. You might like what you find.

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Post by GekkePrutser »

MarkSweep wrote: post #35
worewood wrote: post #10

If they shipped a version of Windows sporting the Windows-11 kernel, so running all the recent software, but with Windows 2000 UI for a thousand dollars I would buy it immediately.

It’s not quite Windows 2000, but the LTSC edition has much of the bullshit stripped out. It does not support the store therefore Candy Crush is not installed by default. And I don’t think it’s quite $1000, if you can figure out how to buy it.

The latest LTSC actually doesn't have as much stripped out anymore. Telemetry choices are the same now and also MS accounts are there. I was really disappointed when I tried it.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by ipaddr »

seanp2k2 wrote: post #257
_Algernon_ wrote: post #66

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Looks like switching to linux when win 7 support ended was the right move. All my games may randomly freeze for no discernible reason, but at least I don't have to deal with that BS.

I've had the freezes happen when my nvidia drivers weren't properly installed and when the kernel wasn't using the nvidia DKMS modules. glxgears should run super fast at a consistent framerate. Check out https://gist.github.com/wangg12/c69b56272eaeed1aba9515d19f55...

A update is needed as most are on 20.04

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by fgonzag »

dimgl wrote: post #299
ficiek wrote: post #250

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>Linux still barely works in 2022 I have had zero problem running linux as my daily driver for the last 10 years, care to explain your comment? The only problem that I have is that video games don't always work because the developers don't care.

I see this argument in every thread about Linux. There's always this one magical user where everything "just works", has had 0 issues and everything's just dandy.

I guess I'm the second magical user.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by Sugimot0 »

hpcjoe wrote: post #126
lamontcg wrote: post #92

> I can literally run a game written for Windows 95 on Windows 11 without major issues That probably isn't a good thing. Not without firing up some kind of explicit emulator.

Yeah, I read that, and wondered if that is a real justification for, well, anything. I have and can run Linux binaries I had compiled (statically) from the late 90s. Doesn't mean that I should. If you are running ancient games, run them on the ancient OS. Using this as a reason to dismiss Mac and Linux? Not the best thought out argument. Kinda makes the opposite point than the author intended.

Also with package managers like Nix you can install older versions of a program along with that program's corresponding dependencies at the corresponding version and so on. It's not baked-in to unix but things like this are made easier on unix and I think that's where the sauce is.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by astrea »

fmakunbound wrote: post #197

What you’re seeing there in Windows is a two-dimensional, stylized representation of the bloody turf battles between business units within Microsoft. Most recently adtech has entered the battle and seem to be really killing it.

This is the only comment that needs to be on this post. Microsoft has been designing-by-committee Windows much to the chagrin of their users for years. I don't know the last time I was truly excited for a release.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by O5vYtytb »

dimgl wrote: post #299
ficiek wrote: post #250

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>Linux still barely works in 2022 I have had zero problem running linux as my daily driver for the last 10 years, care to explain your comment? The only problem that I have is that video games don't always work because the developers don't care.

I see this argument in every thread about Linux. There's always this one magical user where everything "just works", has had 0 issues and everything's just dandy.

Hi I'm another magical user

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by bobbylarrybobby »

smackeyacky wrote: post #160
khaledh wrote: post #98

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The problem is that Windows with all its warts now is still far ahead of the competition in that department (desktop GUI). Whether that's due to monopoly or being actually better, it doesn't matter. The fact is competition is almost non-existent.

I don't think that's true anymore. Gnome with two tweaks (put the min/max buttons back on the window header and move the main menu to the bottom of the screen so it works like the old win 10 task bar) and it's streets ahead of Windows 11. It's a great blessing in disguise when Microsoft decide your old laptop won't support Windows 11.

Wait, is streets ahead a real saying? I thought Pierce on Community invented it.
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