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Vanced Discontinuation

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Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#91

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Dislikes are a pretty big feature. Also sponsorblock which is a must for some people. And picture-in-picture mode was great. I could watch the news while seeing how close an uber was to me without having to switch apps.

btw the regular YouTube app has picture in picture. Without premium you can't use it on "music videos."

Only from US IP addresses

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#92
post #81

> Vanced is discontinued for "legal reasons" as vanced was infringing the logo and branding of the original YouTube app as the logo resembles the original logo in a similar way and was used without taking prior permission from Google for using the branding. Huh?!? That was the only reason behind the C&D letter and they killed the product when a simple logo redesign could have solved the issue? Or the C&D letter would…

Vanced is a modified version of the official Youtube app. I'm not a lawyer, but I'm pretty sure it's a copyright violation to distribute modified versions of someone else's software without their permission. What's probably not illegal to distribute is the source code for the tools they used to generate those modified Youtube apps, so I'm a bit surprised by how adamantly they're refusing to do so in this post.

That's for the lawyers. The source will be sold and resurface somewhere.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#93
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post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> their lawyers started coming after me with a cease and desist for something I wasn't even going to do, costing me thousands of dollars to deal with (as their lawyer knew to directly contact my lawyer, making it harder for me to avoid any costs). Why would Snapchat's lawyers go directly to your lawyers on this one? And how would that cost you legal fees. Wouldn't your lawyers need your sign-off to bill on any projec…

Snapchat's lawyers actually knew my IP lawyers from a prior issue (which wasn't actually related to Snapchat). (And it isn't even that strange, btw: there is actually a quirk of legal ethics that if, as a lawyer, you know someone else is represented by a lawyer, you aren't supposed to directly contact that person without going through their lawyer.)

What kind of retainer arrangement do you have with your IP lawyers where someone can reach out to them directly and incur billable time? I've got a couple different kinds of lawyers, and there isn't one of them you could call up and get me billed for. You might have a reasonable complaint for your lawyers about this!

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#94

Dumb question, could they just not change the logo?

That's the reason this write up doesn't make any sense because they did do that, the old logo was just the YouTube logo with a gradient and a line, the new logo is much closer to NewPipe's and they dropped the YouTube from "YouTube Vanced"

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#95
post #7

I'm really sad I missed the boat on Vanced by one day. I'd heard about it for a long time and randomly decided to finally start using it only to find all the download links had been removed the day before. Youtube ads have become horrendously annoying. Does anyone know if the apks can be found on any archive site?

Seems legit but I haven't checked: https://www.apkmirror.com/apk/team-vanced/

You'll need to install both youtube vanced and vanced microg in order to make google login within vanced works.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#96
post #74

So they couldn't just redesign the logo/app to be dissimilar enough from YouTube? I really want to know what these "complications" are, this is the sketchiest way I've seen someone refuse to open source something. > The vanced team will "NEVER" make its source code public. Making the source code available on the internet can cause serious complications for us.

They basically decompiled youtube's apk, modify and and repackaging it as Vanced, so off course they can't release their "source code" because it's not theirs (except the modified parts).

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#97
post #44

> Vanced is discontinued for "legal reasons" as vanced was infringing the logo and branding of the original YouTube app as the logo resembles the original logo in a similar way and was used without taking prior permission from Google for using the branding So if this is the actual reason, shutting down completely seems a bit of an overreaction. Why not just get a new logo and rebrand the app ?

My impression is that they aren’t legally allowed to reuse any of the source code that was ever used in vanced. But if they create a new thing as a new team and claim that it shares nothing with vanced; and, critically, they never release the source code from the original vanced (which presumably hasn’t been subpoenaed); then they can reuse the source code, because nobody will know the difference. This, presumably, w…

But why? If the complaint is just about the logo this makes no sense.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#98
post #7

I'm really sad I missed the boat on Vanced by one day. I'd heard about it for a long time and randomly decided to finally start using it only to find all the download links had been removed the day before. Youtube ads have become horrendously annoying. Does anyone know if the apks can be found on any archive site?

YouTube premium is 12 dollars a month. For me, this is worth it to remove ads and add background play and picture-in-picture.

That's a valid argument, but Vanced also had sponsorblock which auto-skipped all those tedious intros, "please install this adware mobile game and smash that subscribe button" and boring outros.

I will be very eagerly monitoring the situation with hope a successor will arise.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#99

> Vanced is discontinued for "legal reasons" as vanced was infringing the logo and branding of the original YouTube app as the logo resembles the original logo in a similar way and was used without taking prior permission from Google for using the branding. Huh?!? That was the only reason behind the C&D letter and they killed the product when a simple logo redesign could have solved the issue? Or the C&D letter would…

NDA?

Why would they sign one?

A gag-order does not seem super likely, but more-so than an NDA.

Re: Vanced Discontinuation

#100
post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My impression is that they aren’t legally allowed to reuse any of the source code that was ever used in vanced. But if they create a new thing as a new team and claim that it shares nothing with vanced; and, critically, they never release the source code from the original vanced (which presumably hasn’t been subpoenaed); then they can reuse the source code, because nobody will know the difference. This, presumably, w…

Yeah, they were illegally distributing Google's copyrighted source code this entire time. It's just easier to prove the trademark thing, so Google lead off with that.

bytecode, not source code.
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