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Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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I've been a full time dev since 2000 – 22 years. Right now I'm in training for ordained ministry in a Christian denomination. I came back into regular church worship a few years ago, and then started studying theology through my diocese and found I loved it. Now I'm close to completing a Masters of Divinity at university, and I'm in my third year of training at theological college. Software skills have been much more…

I'm on the brink of doing something like this! I'd love if you would reach out to me. Email in my profile.

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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Walked away from 20 years of software development last year. I've been day and swing trading stocks for last 2 years. I'm now trading full time and doing great. I don't miss the daily stand-ups, scrum meetings, planning meetings, "quick chats", one-on-ones with management, weekly department meetings, monthly company meetings, and late night critical support calls one bit!

Good luck to you! I remember back in the late 90's / early 2000's when The Stock Market Only Goes Up, and 1/4 of my software peers quit to "become day traders." Well when the bear market inevitably came, I started seeing them back in scrum meetings... Do your due diligence and and preserve your capital :)

It can be very difficult to look at the realised outcome and disentangle how much of that outcome was driven by decision making, and how much was due to variability of factors entirely outside of your control, i.e. "luck". What if your decision making is poor and over-fitted to current conditions that are not guaranteed to persist, but you keep (temporarily) winning anyway?

Taleb writes about this kind of thing in Fooled by Randomness. Poker player Annie Duke's book "thinking in bets" also goes into it.

I reckon to some extent public market conditions in recent years since GFC have approximately been "stock market only goes up" with a few small fluctuations from covid, negative oil price weirdness, etc. Lots of investors trying desperately to invest cash in recent years pouring money into variety of highly speculative areas -- SPACs, crypto, fraudulent EV companies (Nikola rolling their "truck" down the hill to make it look like it was self propelled, lol).

At some point the music will stop.

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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I switched mid-career to being a full-time parent. The pay sucks but the benefits are amazing.

Woohoo! Me too! Now the kids are 8 and 10 and I’m looking to get back into the workforce. It’s amazing how few people respect the work involved being a full time parent.

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I was a software engineer for about 10 years. Now I’m a furniture maker and occasional finish carpenter. Worked at Twitch as an early-ish employee, we got acquired by Amazon. Made it to Principal Engineer and just got tired of the sorts of problems that are hardest in software at scale: project management, building consensus, migrating systems. Also got really tired of the wastefulness of software: so much software g…

> Also got really tired of the wastefulness of software: so much software gets thrown out in under 5 years. Stuff that lasts 10 years is considered extraordinary, and 20 years is almost unheard of. Whenever I think of this while working on my personal open source projects, I become a little bit unmotivated, cuz in the end it will be rendered useless, so why the heck should I spend my time on something that’s not gonn…

You'll have projects to update, refine, and maybe even rewrite, on your own time and your own circumstances. At least better than lacking projects and only thinking of starting them :) As well, a maintainer may come along and preserve it.

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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I was a SWE at a FANG. Left to get an MBA, then went back to FANG to do other things. Finance, Operations, Product. My role now still has me involved in solving problems, and I will still review technical architecture (eg why are you proposing a GraphDB for this highly structured data, how are you going to address the fact that Cassandra is eventually consistent, etc.), but it’s a lot more people and solutions driven…

Sounds like what I want to do. Do you believe this transition was worth it? Did you see a pay increase or cut? What do you see in the career trajectory?

I generally agree with the other Ryan’s feedback.

I’ve been very lucky/fortunate/successful, so it’s hard to call it a pay cut, but giving up FANG RSU’s 15 years ago hurt, and in general engineers make more than non-engineers.

It was definitely worth it to me because I enjoy the work I do much more. It’s still technical but I get to make business decisions (and pre-pandemic, travel to great places). I work with a lot of project managers but don’t have to do too much PM, which I find a bit dull and not a good match to my skills. I prefer creative thinking and problem solving (with some analysis mixed in) to highly structured work.

It’s easy to say when you’ve got the benefit of privilege (good schools, financial safety net), but I was able to choose to focus on the work I liked and be good at them, and the other parts fell into place.

All that said, multiple times a year since graduating I talk to engineering colleagues about getting an MBA and I almost always advise against getting one. It’s not a good financial decision. If you know what you want to do and are at a good company, figure out a way to pivot to that role eg as an engineer work on projects that are more customer facing, or closer to the product, or closer to analytics, rather than going deeper into SRE or architecture. Why spend $300-500K in lost wages and fees to learn to be a PM if you can be paid to figure out how to do it?

The exception to that is if you want to be a VC. Then it makes to get a Stanford MBA, if you can get in.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

how did you make the move? without prior track record in trading or finance?

MBA

never thought that would be enough. what did you exactly do day to day in your wall street job?

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post #200

Going back to school for Physics (age 30). It'd be cool to understand why the universe exists before I die.

> It'd be cool to understand why the universe exists before I die. I'm affraid physicsts aren't interested in this question (as it can't be answered by science).

Might be able to get enough understanding as to "what we have" (if not "why we have it") to be content for a human lifetime, though.

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I left tech in July and I'm building furniture and woodworking now. I had been doing Rails since 2007, ending my career with a great 4.5 year stretch at Apple and was ready for a break. Two to four weeks off a year just isn't enough for me and my family and simply getting paid 10-20% more wasn't going to change our life. I'm loving it. I don't sit or stand in place for eight hours a day. I'm learning a ton. I'm engag…

How did you get connected with the the volunteer opportunities?

Do you live somewhere that you can afford to have enough space for a home workshop? I want to woodwork, but the Seattle area is prohibitively expensive to have the woodworking space.

Re: Ask HN: Developers who switched careers, what are you doing now?

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post #297

Earlier quoted context omitted.

MBA

never thought that would be enough. what did you exactly do day to day in your wall street job?

I was on the private side doing m&a, debt and equity advisory. MBA is a common path into the role.
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