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Windows needs a change in priorities

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Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by 1_player »

dend wrote: post #6
sph wrote: post #2

I'm pretty sure Windows got their priorities straight: telemetry, advertisement are the priority and they're executing their strategy very well. Your priority as a user are different, but, sorry to say, your voice doesn't count. The year-end revenue and KPI is what counts, because you and 99% of other companies will still be buying and using PCs with Windows preinstalled and paying Microsoft for licences. You say so…

I would pay extra to buy a "Signature Edition" (kind of like they had with PCs) of Windows that has none of the ads and whatever other "value-add" pieces are integrated in it. One would say - I want LTSC accessible for customers like myself, without the kneecapped ability to run latest Windows software.

They make more off you if you have a regular licence and they can sell your data. You wanting to pay extra not to be spied upon is irrelevant, you have no choice in the matter.

Very simply, the money lost because some people have left Windows for greener pastures is being offset by the increased revenue.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

#12

Post by crazysim »

dend wrote: post #6
sph wrote: post #2

I'm pretty sure Windows got their priorities straight: telemetry, advertisement are the priority and they're executing their strategy very well. Your priority as a user are different, but, sorry to say, your voice doesn't count. The year-end revenue and KPI is what counts, because you and 99% of other companies will still be buying and using PCs with Windows preinstalled and paying Microsoft for licences. You say so…

I would pay extra to buy a "Signature Edition" (kind of like they had with PCs) of Windows that has none of the ads and whatever other "value-add" pieces are integrated in it. One would say - I want LTSC accessible for customers like myself, without the kneecapped ability to run latest Windows software.

I think there was a Pro for Workstations SKU that installed with a lot less candy crush in the start menu when I tried it.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

#13

Post by dend »

1_player wrote: post #11
dend wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would pay extra to buy a "Signature Edition" (kind of like they had with PCs) of Windows that has none of the ads and whatever other "value-add" pieces are integrated in it. One would say - I want LTSC accessible for customers like myself, without the kneecapped ability to run latest Windows software.

They make more off you if you have a regular licence and they can sell your data. You wanting to pay extra not to be spied upon is irrelevant, you have no choice in the matter. Very simply, the money lost because some people have left Windows for greener pastures is being offset by the increased revenue.

I don't disagree with this. It's the unfortunate reality that I hope changes, but that change needs to come from _a lot_ of dissatisfied customers.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

#14

Post by [deleted] »

sph wrote: post #2

I'm pretty sure Windows got their priorities straight: telemetry, advertisement are the priority and they're executing their strategy very well. Your priority as a user are different, but, sorry to say, your voice doesn't count. The year-end revenue and KPI is what counts, because you and 99% of other companies will still be buying and using PCs with Windows preinstalled and paying Microsoft for licences. You say so…

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Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

#15

Post by [deleted] »

jeroenhd wrote: post #4

You've got to admire Microsoft's support of open source software. They're doing their best to push users to Linux! By making their UI as ugly and difficult to use as possible so that users don't feel too much of a bump in usability when they try Linux. I'm sure MS can get the job done and kill off their OS with just a few more years of obnoxious bullshit forcefully shoved into their operating system!

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Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by [deleted] »

hughrr wrote: post #3

Windows 11 is the first windows release I haven’t used. It’s also the first windows release I will never use going back to windows 3. I am completely done with it now. The last release which wasn’t a complete punch in the balls was nearly 20 years ago.

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Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by bitwize »

Windows at this point is a ball and chain around even Microsoft's leg. They pivoted to a "cloud and services" company under Nadella because they can't make money off Windows anymore -- except by strip-mining its reputation and ubiquity by turning it into adware/spyware. Truly we live in the worst timeline.

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

#18

Post by duskwuff »

sylens wrote: post #8

This post resonates with me a lot, as I share many of the same complaints. The UI inconsistencies are one thing (that you would hope get ironed out over time), but the level of ads creeping ever higher is alarming. The “accidental” inclusion of an ad in Windows Explorer this week may have tipped their hand - if that’s the direction they are going, I’m moving off the platform entirely.

> The UI inconsistencies are one thing (that you would hop get ironed out over time)

I wouldn't get my hopes up. Microsoft seems to be introducing new UI frameworks -- each with their own slightly different appearance -- at an ever-increasing rate. If current trends continue, by 2030 there will be more Windows UI frameworks than developers using them. :)

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by dend »

crazysim wrote: post #12
dend wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would pay extra to buy a "Signature Edition" (kind of like they had with PCs) of Windows that has none of the ads and whatever other "value-add" pieces are integrated in it. One would say - I want LTSC accessible for customers like myself, without the kneecapped ability to run latest Windows software.

I think there was a Pro for Workstations SKU that installed with a lot less candy crush in the start menu when I tried it.

There's that, and there's also the limited access Enterprise SKU. Last I checked, the Pro versions will now also require[1] a Microsoft account.

[1]: https://www.theverge.com/2022/2/18/22940517/windows-11-pro-r...

Re: Windows needs a change in priorities

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Post by Royi »

The only direction Windows should go is being more modular and less features. Speed is probably the only feature all users want.

So make all features modular with advanced user being able to remove and get a lean and mean OS.

We want less, we want speed.

P. S. It is about time to upgrade the File System. It is too slow...

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