Perhaps this was a Quash-then-Hire and while Vanced is gone the developers are now Googlers with some NDA agreement...
Vanced Discontinuation
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Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#42Earlier quoted context omitted.
What does this say about NFTs exactly?
> What does this say about NFTs exactly? "it was done as a joke and nothing more." can pretty much describe NFTs
A joke that somehow a lot of people seem to fall for? And you take their actual money rather than, at the latest after payment, revealing it was just a joke and refunding the money?
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#43> The main source of income for youtube isn't ads. YouTube revolves around the merchandise and YouTube Premium subscriptions. Lol. You can open Alphabet's 10-Q or 10-K and find out in a matter of seconds how untrue this is. Reminds me of the famous "Senator, we run ads " by Zuckerberg.
You seem to ignore that the incredibly annoying ads are a prime reason people even buy premium in the first place.
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#44> Vanced is discontinued for "legal reasons" as vanced was infringing the logo and branding of the original YouTube app as the logo resembles the original logo in a similar way and was used without taking prior permission from Google for using the branding So if this is the actual reason, shutting down completely seems a bit of an overreaction. Why not just get a new logo and rebrand the app ?
My impression is that they aren’t legally allowed to reuse any of the source code that was ever used in vanced.
But if they create a new thing as a new team and claim that it shares nothing with vanced; and, critically, they never release the source code from the original vanced (which presumably hasn’t been subpoenaed); then they can reuse the source code, because nobody will know the difference.
This, presumably, would be what they mean by “complications” if they release Vance’s code: it’ll retroactively prove that their new """unrelated""" project is actually related after all.
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#45> The vanced team will "NEVER" make its source code public. Making the source code available on the internet can cause serious complications for us. How would Google have acted if the source code was open source from the beginning?
My understanding is that Vanced was a patching of the official Youtube App, so already on somewhat shaky ground. If Vanced took advantage of vulnerabilities in the Youtube App, or the source code could point to them, I could see Google reacting poorly to start out with - though afaik (not a lawyer, also not your lawyer) it's legal to distribute source for a patch for a proprietary program and instructions to apply it…
I'm not a lawyer either, but: I'd worry that something Vanced was doing was technically in violation of DMCA, or at least could be argued to be in violation by someone with several billion dollars.
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#46I'm really sad I missed the boat on Vanced by one day. I'd heard about it for a long time and randomly decided to finally start using it only to find all the download links had been removed the day before. Youtube ads have become horrendously annoying. Does anyone know if the apks can be found on any archive site?
Try NewPipe
NewPipe is garbage. Vanced has that original YouTube app feel, but works even better.
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#47>The vanced team will "NEVER" make its source code public. Making the source code available on the internet can cause serious complications for us. What would those complicatiosn be?
This points to an NDA with Google.
I was wondering if one of the authors was a youtube employee and took code perhaps, but yours is the simpler explanation. Sounds logical to request this from Google's POV.
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you subscribe to anything on the internet? Perhaps Spotify, your internet connection, Netflix? Have you considered their premium offering, or do you think YT should be free and without ads?
How does your comment help? YT premium still doesn't give all the Vance's features. I can buy premium and still use Vanced for features that YouTube does not offer. Or maybe I don't support YouTube adding ads to unmonetized videos? Or is it my way to fight back, how they roll over small creators to trolls?
I'd never heard of Vanced before today. What features did they offer that YT Premium doesn't?
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#49> Vanced is discontinued for "legal reasons" as vanced was infringing the logo and branding of the original YouTube app as the logo resembles the original logo in a similar way and was used without taking prior permission from Google for using the branding. Huh?!? That was the only reason behind the C&D letter and they killed the product when a simple logo redesign could have solved the issue? Or the C&D letter would…
They did tried to change the logo a few days before all this, at least on Discord.
However as others point here the "You are using our logo without our permission" is just a valid reason to shut down an app, and happens more often that it should.
Re: Vanced Discontinuation
#50I'm really sad I missed the boat on Vanced by one day. I'd heard about it for a long time and randomly decided to finally start using it only to find all the download links had been removed the day before. Youtube ads have become horrendously annoying. Does anyone know if the apks can be found on any archive site?
YouTube premium is 12 dollars a month. For me, this is worth it to remove ads and add background play and picture-in-picture.
If you use an Indian VPN to subscribe, you can get it for about 2 usd a month.