a better alternative to vimeo is pretty easy to create. It's weird that they take themselves so seriously.
Please go ahead. A cousin comment says the economic is against you, and I heartedly agree with that.
Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”
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Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”
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What alternatives have you looked at? It's fair priced imo.
Hvae you heard of Youtube? They'll even pay for the videos instead.
It's an ad supported video platform that will give data to google, advertise your competitors to your customers, distract your customers from your product by being an entertainment social network site, have relatively poor analytics, etc. It's a non-starter for many businesses.
But of course not using it only makes sense if you can monetize your videos yourself by selling it or another product.
When you upload on YT you are the product, YT sells you and your data and they profit. What vimeo is selling is hosting, saas, and bandwidth. They dont' profit at all except for what you pay them. vimeo comparatively to CDNs and SaaS hosting providers have a decent price. If you don't think so then hire someone to set up cloudflare stream and your own website.
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Or a gas station. Their margins are outrageous but only if they can get you to come inside - they're only making a cent or two off each gallon of gas they sell.
And yet: there are gas stations hundred feet away from each other that have gas prices tens of cents apart.
Which makes sense. They've found the best locations to sell gas from, and also the best places to receive large gas shipments and store enough gas to sell safely
Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”
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> "I was already paying $200 a year, which I think is pretty expensive," In other words, she has no idea what bandwidth or server costs are and doesn't realize Vimeo is definitely losing money on distributing her videos, but still arrogantly believes she is entitled to infinite bandwidth for free because "that's what YouTube does."
Why is it arrogant or entitlement when there are several services which allow video uploads for free, never mind $200/year? If you look at her play counts and read her position, I don't think there's indication of her expecting "infinite bandwidth".
There are several services which allow video uploads for "free" not really for free.
People have to understand that those companies are burning VC money to bait and switch people.
It is basically "dumping" and starving any competition until they find way to extract money from users ... or just sell BS to investors that they will get money from users.
Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”
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That's awesome, thank you. I did not realize hosting prices were so cheap now... good to know for the future.
You're not alone! So many people are being "brought up" in the web/server world only knowing cloud hosting which is super expensive, and not many know about the "old world" of dedicated instances. Prices haven't changed a lot for a long time, for as long as I know, just that people are being steered to use cloud more and more.
How reliable are those "unmetered old world hostings", because "old world" hostings for me mean they can go down any time and I can call them as much as I want and no one will pick up.
If AWS is down I don't have to call anyone, half of the internet is already twitting/posting it and they will be up quite soon.
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To add, this is why people serious about their business generally will enter into contracts with other businesses to ensure either side can't screw each other over. And it provides a clear transition plan if one party wants to leave.
For something thats $200/yr no one would be offering that.
Then you'd pay more to use service that would if the corner stone of your business can crumble overnight.
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But why would they invest time and energy fixing a flaw for a customer spending $200/yr? That pays for like 2 hours of a senior engineer. More expedient to ask them to pay more or leave.
Because it will save them money on all videos that aren't fully watched. Great ROI
I think this announcement is firmly stating that they don't have the volume of small customers for that to be economical. YouTube can spend tens of millions a year shaving every last byte off their egress because they have such enormous volume that is pays off in aggregate. Vimeo can't do that so they don't try.
Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”
#279I strongly recommend indie creators use a personal domain link for each video that they publish. For our indie conference -- Handmade Seattle [0] -- we own the link to someone's talk. We embed a Vimeo player but after this announcement we can switch out providers and still have the permalink. Invest on your own infrastructure as soon as you can. [0] https://media.handmade-seattle.com
Off topic, but thank you for the link. There are some very good talks there. I'll give a brief summary of 3 I picked to watch.
https://media.handmade-seattle.com/roc-lang/ [1], https://media.handmade-seattle.com/metadesk/ [2], https://media.handmade-seattle.com/practical-data-oriented-d... [3]
1. roc-lang by Richard Feldman. A high level pure functional language with low level language performance in runtime and compile time. Looks like the holy grail, but it seems like it'll be a few years to see if it lives up to that.
2. github.com/dion-systems/metadesk . A DSL/meta-data format that is a superset of json for that is more readable and does not encode data structure like json.
3. Some good tips on designing your data structures for efficient memory usage. I won't call it "Data Oriented Design" based on the things in the talk. The sudden exponential jump in "good" code after years of plateau leave me disappointed overall. I don't see how the code can have an exponential jump in "better-ness" based on topics in the talk.
Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”
#280We have used Vimeo for some corporate clients' customer facing websites. This is because Vimeo's embed offers: 1) No recommendations at the end 2) Customisable player controls 3) Control over where it can be embedded, etc 4) No ads The downside is that they don't have much transparency over TOS / content policy removals. We had a random violation in one instance where the uploader recorded a screencast of something.…
Wait, so Vimeo removes videos of paying customers, and does not even tell you why/let you talk to a human about it to understand and appeal the decision?
It's one thing when a free service does this, but a paid provider?!?