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Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Post by syshum »

pavlov wrote: post #116
somebodythere wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A single provider deciding to charge you 16% of your revenue is kind of unusual.

Apple’s App Store charges much more than that for a service that includes only very basic hosting of an application package.

I have never understood how pointing out another unethical policy justifies the first unethical policy

It seems we as a society have lost the axiom of "2 wrongs do not make a right" as it is not just this area were I see people attempting to justify their wrongs based on the wrongs of others...

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Post by apotheon »

kingkawn wrote: post #115
bobitsaboy wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not even a sensible or pro-rated increase. Just a shakedown.

Except the point seems to be getting her to leave, not giving her a thoughtful way to stay.

This also seems like a great way to get everyone to leave. If what I wanted was a B2B platform, I wouldn't choose one with a history of suddenly changing its policies and only giving one week to catch up.

In fact, it's often much more difficult for a larger business to move that quickly than an independent user.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Post by hackernewds »

bryans wrote: post #134
neilv wrote: post #29

This sounds like a potentially great business clarity move: > We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube” But this part -- bait&switch, with only one week to decide or move, (if that's accurate) -- is not what you want from your B2B solution provider: > “I was already paying $200 a year, which I think is pretty expensive,” [...] if she wanted to keep hosting her content on the site, she’d need to upgrade…

> "I was already paying $200 a year, which I think is pretty expensive," In other words, she has no idea what bandwidth or server costs are and doesn't realize Vimeo is definitely losing money on distributing her videos, but still arrogantly believes she is entitled to infinite bandwidth for free because "that's what YouTube does."

I wouldn't read it as entitled since other companies have found models that can successfully support revenue scaling with distribution

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Post by hannasanarion »

yashap wrote: post #8

> She’s uploaded 117 subscriber-only videos so far, and each one only gets around 150 views on average. Her most viewed video has around 815 views. … Her bandwidth usage was within the top 1 percent of Vimeo users, the company said Well that’s telling. Sounds like a company that’s on the rocks trying to squeeze money out of a small number of users to survive.

They left out a crucial detail: all of her videos are 4-10 hours long.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Post by lillecarl »

chx wrote: post #89

Look at transit prices https://blog.telegeography.com/2021-global-ip-transit-price-... 1mbps a month is 320 gigabyte so 2TB is 6mbps which costs a whopping 3.6 USD in Hong Kong 1.2 USD elsewhere. Where I am wrong? If you don't want to deal with storage, Backblaze B2 is $5/TB/month and the Bandwidth Alliance will reduce/eliminate the egress costs.

How does it eliminate egress cost? It just makes bolting their different services together free, at some point you'll pay for egress eventually, even if just a little.

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Post by hackernewds »

somebodythere wrote: post #110
KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She makes around $25k a month from her videos, so paying $3.1k for hosting doesn't seem like an unusual cost. However, it's obvious that she derives no benefit from being able to control her own branding or whatever value-add that vimeo provides over youtube so putting it on an ad-supported platform like youtube probably just makes more sense for her.

A single provider deciding to charge you 16% of your revenue is kind of unusual.

It's $3500 per year so costs more like 16%/12. Intentionally deceptive and also a very reasonable cost

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Post by bobitsaboy »

apotheon wrote: post #152
kingkawn wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except the point seems to be getting her to leave, not giving her a thoughtful way to stay.

This also seems like a great way to get everyone to leave. If what I wanted was a B2B platform, I wouldn't choose one with a history of suddenly changing its policies and only giving one week to catch up. In fact, it's often much more difficult for a larger business to move that quickly than an independent user.

Bingo!

Re: Vimeo: “We are a B2B solution, not the indie version of YouTube.”

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Post by omnimus »

ziml77 wrote: post #109
bobitsaboy wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you're not willing to pay for bandwidth you're not a legit customer. If they're not willing to pay a hefty premium for it? I don't follow your comment, buddy. They're already a paying customer paying what was asked of them. Why would you not just use Cloudfare Stream or another option and save roughly 40% of the cost?

If Vimeo has no value-add, then that's what people should be doing. It's not like Vimeo is a platform for content discovery like YouTube so it should be no problem for anyone to switch.

It's what everybody will start doing. This will be bane of Vimeo. You must realize most of the cinematographers or people in creative industry don't even know about alternatives. Vimeo had great MOAT exactly because they were "youtube for creatives".

Also services like cloudflare stream/bunnycdn stream/mux are fairly recent.

Another issue is reuploading of all the media. It's not that easy to switch. But people will flee to some other solutions.

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