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Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content

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Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content

#101

> Australian government forces Google to soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content There, I fixed it. I'm getting tired of every headline trying to bash on Google/Facebook/etc. for clicks.

Do you also have this same opinion on Google's Project Dragonfly (Google's censored Chinese search engine)? That is, that people shouldn't have "bashed" Google, since it was the Chinese government "forcing" them?

Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content

#102

> Australian government forces Google to soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content There, I fixed it. I'm getting tired of every headline trying to bash on Google/Facebook/etc. for clicks.

Needing gov't ID to follow search links is dystopian, and antithetical to the original spirit of the Internet.

Google should flat out refuse when governments make these requests.

Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content

#103

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iOS does not require CC info to download free apps. It's only needed to pay for paid apps (same as Android).

This is not straightforward on iOS, even after iOS 6 stopped strictly requiring it. https://discussions.apple.com/thread/251793338

Ah I created the account on the device during initial setup, so that explains why I was never asked for CC info. Though from reading through the help page it appears they have an option for "none" for CC info when you create the account later. There are no screenshots on the page but I found some on Youtube.

https://imgur.com/a/9v1bkle

Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content

#106

> Australian government forces Google to soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content There, I fixed it. I'm getting tired of every headline trying to bash on Google/Facebook/etc. for clicks.

Needing gov't ID to follow search links is dystopian, and antithetical to the original spirit of the Internet. Google should flat out refuse when governments make these requests.

Agreed, and not sure why the early downvote wave you experienced there. I am surprised to see this sort of sentiment downvoted on HN.

Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content

#107

Although the title is correct, it's worth noting that Google is not doing this because it thinks it's fun to require verification. The Australian government is requiring google to take this action.

>"If our systems are unable to establish that a viewer is above the age of 18, we will request that they provide a valid ID or credit card to verify their age.” I don't think Google is complaining too much. Especially if it gives them an excuse to collect credit card data (reducing a significant amount of friction when they sell YouTube premium / google drive subscriptions).

I had no idea you could actually use a credit card to verify age. I thought that was nothing but a scam employed by fraudulent cam/hookup sites and catfishers. Google probably shouldn't train people that this is a normal thing to do.

Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content

#108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Needing gov't ID to follow search links is dystopian, and antithetical to the original spirit of the Internet. Google should flat out refuse when governments make these requests.

Agreed, and not sure why the early downvote wave you experienced there. I am surprised to see this sort of sentiment downvoted on HN.

I've done my part to correct this injustice. I am curious what kind of person downvotes such opinions

edit: point taken. I had read the "google should flat out refuse to follow the law" bit. oops

Re: Google will soon ask Australian users to show ID to view some content

#109
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Does google actually save this payment information for use in subsequent transactions? Or is it just used as part of the age verification process?

In the article, someone from google claims the data will be deleted as soon as it has been used for verification, FWIW.

I'll guess that they will be using an automated system, i.e. no human eyes involved. Which isn't that much better, I guess.

I'd say it's best to photoshop the info/photo, because "deleting" the photo doesn't mean they won't scrape it first.

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